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  • Consolewatcher
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    Originally posted by Squid View Post

    I'm thinking, particularly in hotels or office mazes that might hold lots of "just there the day" that EMERGENCY LIGHTING might be key.

    Mostly, someone is gonna notice a fire or other threat (except of course CO gas), but I'd be worried about people getting killed by people, not people killed by fire, when power is cut during an emergency.

    I've worked a lot of office construction and they are always testing the systems to death. Mostly they seem to be extremely loud scary "everyone panic" alarm, along with shocking bright strobe light. Being in an office maze of hallways with just these going on and no other lights (except MAYBE dim Exit) would be very panic inducing IMO. Having them stay on in that mode "forever" should be re-thought IMO.

    And don't get me started on the hidden secret "fire doors" that pop out of walls and LOCK SHUT to "help" people take a diff direction than they are used to. Its like a Fun House/House of Horrors. OK, I'm started. IIRC it was what is now the Intuit building off Marine Way in Mtn View close to 101. When the doors slammed shut in the auditorium exit hallway it took us a few minutes to figure out where in blazes we were supposed to go to exit. This was in daytime after spending about 3 days prior in the building.
    Many years ago I was a guard at a newly built high-tech manufacturing centre. Around the production area they had thick barriers in the corridors that would automatically close when the fire alarm went off, cutting off all normal routes out of the area (of course, fire exits were not blocked). Well, one day the fire alarm went off, and multiple people were "trapped" because of the barriers closing. When we asked them why they didn't exit using the fire exits, they said that "they thought those exits were only for emergencies"

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  • Squid
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    After your fire detection/alarm system what do you consider to be your most important/useful fire safety device/system in your building(s).

    In my 2 high rises I consider it to be the pressurized stairways. Next is me
    I'm thinking, particularly in hotels or office mazes that might hold lots of "just there the day" that EMERGENCY LIGHTING might be key.

    Mostly, someone is gonna notice a fire or other threat (except of course CO gas), but I'd be worried about people getting killed by people, not people killed by fire, when power is cut during an emergency.

    I've worked a lot of office construction and they are always testing the systems to death. Mostly they seem to be extremely loud scary "everyone panic" alarm, along with shocking bright strobe light. Being in an office maze of hallways with just these going on and no other lights (except MAYBE dim Exit) would be very panic inducing IMO. Having them stay on in that mode "forever" should be re-thought IMO.

    And don't get me started on the hidden secret "fire doors" that pop out of walls and LOCK SHUT to "help" people take a diff direction than they are used to. Its like a Fun House/House of Horrors. OK, I'm started. IIRC it was what is now the Intuit building off Marine Way in Mtn View close to 101. When the doors slammed shut in the auditorium exit hallway it took us a few minutes to figure out where in blazes we were supposed to go to exit. This was in daytime after spending about 3 days prior in the building.
    Last edited by Squid; 09-28-2018, 04:56 PM.

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  • morrislynch
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    Notification devices.

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  • i_Ryan
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    Originally posted by RICHARDSD
    Installed the fire alarm systems with advanced technology. Fire alarm systems are functioned according to the sensor. It sense the surrounding smoke and braking of glass that give signals by ringing bell at home and fire station. This helps in controlling the fire and further tragedy.
    Really? I never knew a fire alarm did that. Wait, what is a fire alarm?

    PS: Go away. Stop spamming, I mean advertising, by trying to look like you are posting useful content.

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  • UnsupervisedCanadian
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    Mines have a unique fire notification system: Stench Gas!

    Since it is too loud underground for a regular old bell, Ethyl Mercaptan (engineered so that it is not flammable) is injected into the compressed air and ventilation system, and carried throughout the mine. Since it will take the unmistakeable and unpleasent odor longer to reach some headings/stopes than others, once FA/Security (or the Hoistman) releases Stench, FA/Sec gets on the radio and announces three times on every operating channel "Stench Has Been Injected, Follow Emergency Procedures." This means going to a refuge station, or barricading and sealing your heading so smoke/gasses can't get to you.

    So, the most important device would be the Stench Box where stench can be dumped manually.

    Following dumping stench, the MOST important thing is COMMUNICATION: Other mines need to be notified that we dumped stench so they can do the same (certain headings are connected, smoke and gasses can travel to other mines--HotelSecurity may remember the MacIntyre Mine fire, during which the gasses travelled into the Hollinger Mine--and we need to be sure that there is no one tagged in on the shared drifts. Also, communication between surface and underground, shift bosses and the tagboard coordinator and Incident Commander, and getting Mine Rescue forthwith.

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  • Squid
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    how about a FAT insurance policy so you don't risk your life trying to 'save' anything?

    I've heard policies will range from "what you could get for the stuff at the flea market" to "We buy you all new stuff, top shelf, full retail and not all picked over on sale stuff like you bought".

    I've heard the diff in payout might be 5x or more greater but the premiums aren't even 2x as much.

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  • sec-guy
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    Originally posted by abjohnson View Post
    I think its great to have some sort of sprinkler system as well. However what do you do if there is an arson? We create a mini security guard service arson checklist that you might like.
    Thank you...
    I've had to do fire watch more than a few times; some times because of shoddy maintenace.

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  • abjohnson
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    great

    I think its great to have some sort of sprinkler system as well. However what do you do if there is an arson? We create a mini security guard service arson checklist that you might like.

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  • andrewcell
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    For me, Water Sprinkler System is next... This will turn on automatically when this system detect heat. 99% of fire were controlled by this system.

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  • air web works
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    Of course, a fire alarm to notify you if there are flames burning in your home!

    But of course, there's also a need to know the different types of fire in order to provide the right remedy in case a real fire ensues. What I'm saying is, there's a specific fire extinguisher/remedy for a fire caused by solid objects such as papers, candles, etc and fire caused by greases, oils and the like.

    Different Types of Fire And How to Deal With Them explains this in detail. Having a fire extinguisher at home is a great plus too. The entire family should likewise be oriented and knowledgeable in case a real fire happens. Better be prepared than sorry.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by paulmike View Post
    These things depend on need if someone feel secure without any security system then it's fine other wise there several things which can be install in a house or office like CCTV cameras, building security alarms and lone worker alarm for official use etc.
    CCTV cameras and Securiy Alarms. F*ck off spammer.

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  • zm88
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    Besides the person on duty who discovers the potential fire and makes the proper notifications, I'd say the inergen system.

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  • paulmike
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    These things depend on need if someone feel secure without any security system then it's fine other wise there several things which can be install in a house or office like CCTV cameras, building security alarms and lone worker alarm for official use etc.

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  • Rob H
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    According to my Army Drill Sargent, the most important fire safety device is the fire extinguisher. Back in 70s at boot camp, our instructor informed us that in case of a fire in our classroom somebody had to grab the fire extinguisher on their way out the door; don't use it, just get it out of the building! We were taught to not ask questions, just do as we were told, so I never asked why. I guess he figured that the extinguisher was too valuable to risk its loss in a fire!

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  • ricardoernesto
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    2 Wire and 4 Wire Alarm Systems for Better Office Security

    Two Wire Fire Alarm System

    The two-wire fire or the smoke alarm system is powered from the circuitry on the control panel. The two-wire switch on the end power system and thereby triggers the alarm.
    If the control panel in your office compatible to work with a 2 wire system then you with no other considerations you can install it.
    Whenever the system detects smoke or fire, an electrical short is sent to the circuitry panel. This short triggers the system to sound an alarm.

    Four Wire Fire Alarm System

    The four-wire alarm system generally uses different wires for power and for triggering the alarm.
    Among the four wires, two generate the power for the smoke alarm and the other two are directly connected to the alarm component.
    This will result in a four-wire system self-activating itself since the alarm wires are separate.
    There is a separate end-of-line relay for the wires of the alarm which the triggers the alarm to activate.

    The Similarities and Difference

    There are two types of fire and smoke detectors, the photoelectric and ionization, and either type can be used in both two wires and four wires alarm system.
    The photoelectric detector sense large amount of smoke while ionization detector senses small amount of smoke and triggers the alarm.
    The main difference between two-wire and four-wire systems is their connection as well as the number of wires.
    You cannot use the control panel made for four-wire alarm system for a two-wire alarm system.

    In case you decide to use a 4-wire smoke detector, you need to install a separate power monitor on the two last wires for the alarm and the power.

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