Shooting at club leaves guard dead, 2 wounded

[UtahProtectionForce]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-md.ci.slay13feb13,0,7479440.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

[talon]

Neither of them were off duty police...so I guess they don't matter.

[Black Caesar]

Neither of them were off duty police...so I guess they don't matter.

See what I mean?

[talon]

See what I mean?

The last sentence of the story is why I had to throw that in.


Shooting at club leaves guard dead, 2 wounded
Originally published February 13, 2007

City police and the state's attorney's office are investigating a multiple shooting Sunday night at a West Baltimore club that left a security guard dead and two other men -- his suspected assailants -- wounded by another guard, authorities said.

The gunfire appeared to have been sparked by an incident early Sunday afternoon when security officers at Club International in the 2300 block of W. Baltimore St. ejected two men in their early 30s for acting disorderly, being intoxicated and urinating on the floor, police said.

When the pair left, one of them told a security officer they would be back later, police said.

About 9 p.m., the men, at least one armed with a handgun, entered the vestibule of the crowded building and began shooting, fatally wounding security officer Harold Robinson, 39, of South Baltimore in the upper body as he stood near the entrance, and sending scores of club patrons fleeing.

Police said the two fled, pursued by a second security officer who fired several shots at them, hitting one in the chest and the other in the neck. Both were arrested nearby, one while hiding in a nearby woods. They were admitted to Maryland Shock Trauma Center and were expected to survive, police said.

Names of the suspects and the security officer who shot them were not divulged, and it had not been determined whether the slain security officer was the same one who ordered the men out of the club, police said.

Police said neither security officer was an off-duty police officer.

[Richard Irwin]

[talon]

See what I mean?

Thats how I took the quote, maybe I was wrong for taking it that way...but I DOUBT it.

[N. A. Corbier]

I do have to wonder why this last bit of information was newsworthy. The article talks about security personnel, why would they need to say, "These were not police officers?"

[Black Caesar]

I do have to wonder why this last bit of information was newsworthy. The article talks about security personnel, why would they need to say, "These were not police officers?"

It's easy to see why the PD wopuld mention that. It's Baltimore, and the PD wants to make sure people don't think it's one of theirs doing any shooting. The question is why did the reporter think it necessary to add that or even ask the question (if he did).

Still the "boo hoo people won't care because it's security" stuff is old. People care about alot of stupid crap, and don't care nearly enough about what's important (lots of people vote for American idol who won't vote in an election) so who cares?

[T202]

It's easy to see why the PD wopuld mention that. It's Baltimore, and the PD wants to make sure people don't think it's one of theirs doing any shooting. The question is why did the reporter think it necessary to add that or even ask the question (if he did).

Still the "boo hoo people won't care because it's security" stuff is old. People care about alot of stupid crap, and don't care nearly enough about what's important (lots of people vote for American idol who won't vote in an election) so who cares?

The last line in the report is stupid and not newsworthy. I took it as the reporter asked the question and the police answered it.

[LPGuy]

Still the "boo hoo people won't care because it's security" stuff is old. People care about alot of stupid crap, and don't care nearly enough about what's important (lots of people vote for American idol who won't vote in an election) so who cares?

Thank you. Well said.

Many police officers work security either off-duty or as a special overtime detail, so it's only natural for a reporter to ask that question. It's a more headline-grabbing story if the police shoot someone.

[Mr. Security]

The last line in the report is stupid and not newsworthy. I took it as the reporter asked the question and the police answered it.

Good point. Reporters ask alot of dumb questions when it comes to matters that they don't understand, whether it's security, aviation, etc.

[Curtis Baillie]

When I was a felony crime investigator I strictly avoided talking to the press. Because of this a newspaper reporter wrote an article on how I was uncooperative with the press. That article is framed and hanging on my office wall. My favorite statement was, " talk to the Chief of Police".

[Mr. Security]

Wise Advice

When I was a felony crime investigator I strictly avoided talking to the press. Because of this a newspaper reporter wrote an article on how I was uncooperative with the press. That article is framed and hanging on my office wall. My favorite statement was, " talk to the Chief of Police".

The press will often take statements out of context or not print all the facts. No wonder that most clients strictly forbid security from making ANY statement to the press, other than a referral to the public relations department.

[Professional Rent-a-Cop]

Good point. Reporters ask alot of dumb questions when it comes to matters that they don't understand, whether it's security, aviation, etc.

Back to the Trolley Square shooting here in Salt Lake. Actual quotes from the TV media:

To one of the witnesses

The gunman pointed his weapon directly at you, but did not shoot. Were you terrified?

To the mall property manager directly after the shootings

Is the mall going to be open tomorrow?

[Chucky]

Neither of them were off duty police...so I guess they don't matter.

I don't know what the law states about the chasing of perps on city streets in MD but if the security guy left his post(The club property)to pursue these guys on city streets then is he in trouble or does he then act on his own as a citizen. I ask because there is a very good chance that any one of us could be put in his position. I know that I would have done the same thing and think this security guy should get some support from all of us if someone could get his name and address.