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    Fortunately for me it has never been a problem. I have never smoked. (My mother dies at 44 because of it).

    Tonight at midnight it becomes illegal in Quebec to smoke ANYWHERE inside a hotel except a private room. No more bars, wedding receptions, smoking section of the restaurant etc etc. Has anyone had an experience like this where it all of a sudden becomes illegal? Any problems?
    I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
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    Yeah. I had a problem. I had a State of Florida Senator light a cigar in the lobby of a hotel. Front desk calls me, I ask the guy to put it out. He goes, "Do you know who I am?"

    "No, and it really isn't an issue."

    "I'm a State Senator."

    "Oh. Then you should be aware of the Florida Indoor Clean Air Act, which was passed into law this year."

    "I voted on it, so yes, I am."

    "Then you're also aware you're in violation of it, and the hotel management has asked you to put your cigar out, or be cited for it and removed from the property."

    The Mayor of Tampa overhears this, and comes over and tells the guy to stop giving his officers a hard time. The guy put it out.
    Some Kind of Commando Leader

    "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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    • #3
      Here in Washington state, they just got aggressive on smoking. It is now illegal to smoke in any public building (to include any restraunt, bowling alley, bar, fireworks stand, etc... ) It is also illegal to smoke within 25' of any door, window, or ventilation system. This is all regardless of the owner's wishes. I have had to give a few people a reminder here and there, but I have never really experienced it as a problem. Most people just say something along the lines of "Oh yeah, I forgot about that" or... "What a stupid law".
      "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
      "The Curve" 1998

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      • #4
        In NY it's illegal to smoke 50-feet from any building's enterance, which means if you want to smoke at the hospital you must use the designated smoking areas. That works when it's sunny and 72, but when it's raining it's difficult to enforce it. There have been times when patients on oxygen disconnect them selves from their tanks and proceed to smoke right outside the doors or will observe the smoking policy but leave their tank unguarded near the enterance, leaving unsuspecting smokers to light up when exiting the doors; unaware of any danger.

        Starting the first of next year there is to be no smoking on hospital property at all. Not in cars, parking lots, garages or any such place. That should be fun consittering there is only one of us on for two shifts and two guys on the 4-12.

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        • #5
          they are trying to make it that you can only smoke in your house here.it really annoys me the people that smoke in the no smoking zones then say that im picking on them because i dont smoke.

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          • #6
            YES! Big Brother and total control.

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            • #7
              Everybody I work with would pitch a fit if it was illegal to smoke in a building. I don't smoke, so I really don't care about it. I also don't have to enforce such an ordinance, so again I don't care about it. Now, if they make drinking and driving while on duty illegal, I may be in trouble.
              "We appreciate all the hard work you've done, the dedicated hours you have worked, and the lives you have saved. However, since this is your third time being late to work, we are terminating your employment here."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 1stWatch
                Everybody I work with would pitch a fit if it was illegal to smoke in a building. I don't smoke, so I really don't care about it. I also don't have to enforce such an ordinance, so again I don't care about it. Now, if they make drinking and driving while on duty illegal, I may be in trouble.
                You can smoke inside buildings in Texas? Jesus, we haven't been able to do that in probably 15 years. 2 years ago they made it illegal to smoke in bars and within 25' of a building where anyone works. About the only buildings you can smoke in now are tobacco shops and a hotel room (only the room, no elevators, hallways or lobbies).

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                • #9
                  laws here 25 ft away from the buildings, not in buildings, except your private home. no hotel rooms etc ( as of 2007 no more smoking in bars/private clubs )
                  When not at work or out watching a moive.. passed out at the keyboard.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jackhole
                    You can smoke inside buildings in Texas? Jesus, we haven't been able to do that in probably 15 years. 2 years ago they made it illegal to smoke in bars and within 25' of a building where anyone works. About the only buildings you can smoke in now are tobacco shops and a hotel room (only the room, no elevators, hallways or lobbies).
                    Some cities like Dallas and Fort Worth have banned smoking from public buildings and they're considered left wing commie cities by everybody else in Texas. We can still smoke in bars too.
                    "We appreciate all the hard work you've done, the dedicated hours you have worked, and the lives you have saved. However, since this is your third time being late to work, we are terminating your employment here."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wackenhut Lawson
                      It is now illegal to smoke in any public building (to include any restraunt, bowling alley, bar, fireworks stand, etc... )
                      ^^^^^^^^^

                      You mean I can't smoke and by fireworks at the same time?????

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                      • #12
                        A new law will go into effect this year (I think July 1) prohibiting smoking in any public buildings, with the exception of the casinos (can't interupt the money flow!).

                        At our hospital smoking on the grounds has been prohibited since Feb 05. Staff, patients and visitors had to go to the park next to the hospital to smoke. Well the neighborhood association spent months whining and now staff are prohibited from going there. The solution for staff was for management to designate a place on the top floor of the parking garage for staff to go to smoke.

                        The hospital is gong to build a covered area on the grounds outside for the use of patients and visitors.

                        It's a pain enforcing the rules since many visitors and patients will just ignore us and we have no recourse against them. I've had staff try and run or ignore me and have had to waste the time to chase them down and ID them, when all they had to do was put out the smoke and that's all that would have happened - all we have to get them to do. Heck, I'm a smoker myself. None of us turn the staff in unless they deliberately try to run from us or give us their 2 cents in a rude and impolite way.
                        "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aka Bull
                          I've had staff try and run or ignore me and have had to waste the time to chase them down and ID them, when all they had to do was put out the smoke and that's all that would have happened - all we have to get them to do.
                          I just recently had a run in with one of the charge nurses in the ICU. (Past 9pm all the doors are locked with the exception of the ER). For weeks I've been finding rolls of tape or small pebbles near the door and been removing it everytime. One night I catch one of the ICU nurses propping open a secured door with medical tape. I told her that I needed her not to do it and she told me she was new and that the nurses told her it was okay to do. I resecured the door and thanked her for cooperating.

                          So I called up the nursing supervisor and she wanted her name. I waited a short time for her to come in through the ER enterance, but when she didn't show I went back outside to see that someone was letting her inside from the same door I just re-secured!

                          I went up to the ICU and the charge nurse told me nobody left his unit, which I knew was total B/S, because sitting at her station was the nurse I just spoke to. So I asked her infront of the guy, "were you just outside?" and she admitted she was. The charge nurse, after being made an ass of, then turns around and starts bitching to me about the smoking policy. "Rather than worry about stolen cars or real crap you worry about this crap?!"

                          I contained my anger very well and just walked away. I told the N/S what he had done and made sure to take down every word he said in my log. Later after he got ripped a new one, it turns out he was the one telling the nurses it was okay to prop open secured doors and smoke, and that he was trying to cover it up when I went up there.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LavianoTS386
                            I just recently had a run in with one of the charge nurses in the ICU. (Past 9pm all the doors are locked with the exception of the ER). For weeks I've been finding rolls of tape or small pebbles near the door and been removing it everytime. One night I catch one of the ICU nurses propping open a secured door with medical tape. I told her that I needed her not to do it and she told me she was new and that the nurses told her it was okay to do. I resecured the door and thanked her for cooperating.

                            So I called up the nursing supervisor and she wanted her name. I waited a short time for her to come in through the ER enterance, but when she didn't show I went back outside to see that someone was letting her inside from the same door I just re-secured!

                            I went up to the ICU and the charge nurse told me nobody left his unit, which I knew was total B/S, because sitting at her station was the nurse I just spoke to. So I asked her infront of the guy, "were you just outside?" and she admitted she was. The charge nurse, after being made an ass of, then turns around and starts bitching to me about the smoking policy. "Rather than worry about stolen cars or real crap you worry about this crap?!"

                            I contained my anger very well and just walked away. I told the N/S what he had done and made sure to take down every word he said in my log. Later after he got ripped a new one, it turns out he was the one telling the nurses it was okay to prop open secured doors and smoke, and that he was trying to cover it up when I went up there.
                            This winner needs to realize that a propped door allows a hostile access to restricted areas, a baby-snatcher the ability to leave with a kidnapped infant, and all sorts of wonderful things.
                            Some Kind of Commando Leader

                            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                            • #15
                              ^ Exactly. One floor below the ICU is the OB/pediatrics center.

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