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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Florida spends a million or so a year on little pamphlets to distribute to law enforcement about LE/security. I've read the pamphlets. Its not really about cooperation, its about Florida State Statute 493, and explaining the state's position on private security.

    - Private security is there to protect property.
    - Private security may be armed with intermediate weapons as any citizen can.
    - Private security may openly carry guns if licensed.
    - Private security may carry concealed if licensed and on "special assignment."
    - Private security are there to observe and report to LE police problems.

    Florida's commission has always had an extreme case of bi-polar disorder when it comes to private security. You could tell this by the .38 rule - a citizen with a security license can carry a .50 caliber Desert Eagle concealed TO work, then must put on a .38 caliber revolver at work, take that off and put it in the trunk, then put on the .50 caliber Desert Eagle concealed on their CCW again going home.

    That same employee can walk into 7-11 with his DE concealed and its legal. If he walks in with his .38 on openly, he's committing a crime.

    All in all, most law enforcement officers don't pick the pamphlet up, don't know 493, and don't care.

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  • 1stWatch
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    It sounds like most other states could benefit from that example of good coordination of resources and training.

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    Reason behind that, N.A:

    Our PSS Instructor and Compliance Agent training is done at the VSP academy in Richmond. That Trooper in the video has been accommodating us (private-types) for many years. The VSP staff make us feel very welcome at the academy, and the training is top notch.

    Our governing body, VA DCJS, is also located in Richmond, and the VSP/DCJS relationship is quite good.

    The County Police Officers in the video (Fairfax Cnty. PD) now have the "Private Security and Law Enforcement Coordination" training as part of their basic Police academy. Ironically, Fairfax is also a County where PD does not transport lock-ups for anyone outside the department.

    The perks are nice, but VA security officers pay a great deal of money every year to maintain licensing/credentials, much more than any other state I'm aware of. I guess all that money goes into fancy videos!!
    Last edited by jimmyhat; 06-05-2006, 04:37 PM.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    You can tell through the video that the State Patrol was asked one thing (the person from the VSP being well versed in the security law), and the local police officer was asked another (most likely not being versed in the security law, and having the "normal" LE mindset of "observe, report, keep out of our way.")

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  • 1stWatch
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    Originally posted by truckstop cop
    That is great. This just happened with me the other night, on Monday eve. a police officer came by and gave me a description of a vehicle which was carjacked by two black males with shots fired shooting the victim,while at work on Tuesday eve. a vehicle pulled up with all the same descriptors as what was given to me, i called the P.D. and within minutes the place was swarming with police. Needless to say it was the same vehicle and both males went to jail. I will be in court on Monday as a witness for the police to seeing them exit the vehicle. I have a very good network built with several of the local police,and they trust that i know what i am doing, like one of them said he tells his SGT. that i am reliable and this incident proves it. I agree 100% that we as private security and law enforcement need to work together.
    Excellent work. A perfect example.

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  • 1stWatch
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    Originally posted by talon
    My only gripe is the part about S/O's duty to "observe and report" that hasn't been the case for at least 10 to 20 years. Other than that...good stuff.
    That is still accurate when referring to the basic type of unarmed guard. The ability to get directly involved for them is more limited than for those of us who carry pistols and handcuffs. Even with that said, that part of the job was approached with respect rather than some I've seen who describe security as "wasting police resources" or calling because they are "stupid" or "too scared to take care of business themselves" or other disrespectful comments I've heard before. They also mentioned security has the proper training to recognize legitimate problems, moreso than the average citizen, and call them in.

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  • truckstop cop
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    That is great. This just happened with me the other night, on Monday eve. a police officer came by and gave me a description of a vehicle which was carjacked by two black males with shots fired shooting the victim,while at work on Tuesday eve. a vehicle pulled up with all the same descriptors as what was given to me, i called the P.D. and within minutes the place was swarming with police. Needless to say it was the same vehicle and both males went to jail. I will be in court on Monday as a witness for the police to seeing them exit the vehicle. I have a very good network built with several of the local police,and they trust that i know what i am doing, like one of them said he tells his SGT. that i am reliable and this incident proves it. I agree 100% that we as private security and law enforcement need to work together.

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  • aphilpot
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    Promising! Let's see more of it.

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  • talon
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    Originally posted by 1stWatch
    That's great, to see a video clip with state law enforcement officials endorsing private security. I liked the comment about "not having any weak links, whether in the public or private sector". It sent the proper message.

    My only gripe is the part about S/O's duty to "observe and report" that hasn't been the case for at least 10 to 20 years. Other than that...good stuff.

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  • hrdickinson
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    Video

    That's good stuff!

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  • 1stWatch
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    That's great, to see a video clip with state law enforcement officials endorsing private security. I liked the comment about "not having any weak links, whether in the public or private sector". It sent the proper message.

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  • talon
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    Originally posted by jimmyhat
    http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/LELiaison/index.cfm

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    Watch Our Video, "The Private Side of Public Safety"

    Great video,

    If only more States would recognize this.

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  • talon
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    Originally posted by jimmyhat
    http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/LELiaison/index.cfm

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    Watch Our Video, "The Private Side of Public Safety"

    Great video,

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    Virginia S/O's, this will motivate you!

    http://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/pss/LELiaison/index.cfm

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    Watch Our Video, "The Private Side of Public Safety"

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