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Originally posted by EMTFirefighterNever busted anyone with drugs. I'm a security guard, not a cop.
Working with Tampa Police, we systematically stopped every runner or dealer on our property - not for drugs, but to verify they lived on property and to enforce trespassing laws. When they were searched for their safety and ours, drugs were sometimes found, and they were then detained for posession and the QUAD squad called - not radio units.
Part of a security officer's job is to increase the quality of life on a residential property through the increase of security and reduction of crime. Drug use and sales decreases security, putting the lives of the tenants, and the property of the client, in danger. While getting a "big drug bust" is nice, the overall idea is to make it so unattractive to the bad guy to do business on or near the property that they pack up and move elsewhere - especially when the police cannot simply come on private property and roust the bad guys - they're not on public streets. BUT, the owner's agent CAN. With more latitude than a police officer.
The job of a police officer is the enforcement of law, and protection of society. The job of a security officer, unless otherwise defined in contract, is protection of client, tenant, and visitor's safety, and the property of the client, and vicariously the property of the tenant.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Originally posted by EMTFirefighterYou mean the Tampa police did, with you running along at their shirt-tails?
You were not present, nor are you capable of rendering any informed opinion on the subject, not even being a resident of the state in question.Last edited by N. A. Corbier; 10-04-2005, 03:40 AM.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Please keep posts professional
EMTFirefighter, it's one thing to ask for more information, it's another to troll. Please refrain from any attacks. Our policy is to remove users who troll, flame or otherwise attack another poster. These forums were developed to improve communication inside our industry, and I think much of what occurs here is very useful. Let's keep the personal attacks toned down.
Geoff Kohl, editor
SecurityInfoWatch.com
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I remember back in '89, I was walking my beat on the second floor, and I got a call from dispatch about some suspicious subjects out at the main entrance. It was a boring night, and I wanted something to do, so I ran to the squad (it was a SWEET '88 Crown Vic) and flew over to the entrance. Sure enough, these two 16 year old kids were dealing with about a half pound of pot. I hit the lights and put the spot light on them. They went running off and I started a foot pursuit. I called it in to dispatch, and they called the local police. It was great! I caught one and the cop got the other. I got to cuff the guy and everything! Man, I would give anything to have that kind of action again!
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Biggest Drug Arrest, Let's Hear Your Story
During the course of a physical survey, I interviewed some street people, after buying them a hot breakfast, they provided some valuable information concerning drug dealing in the early morning hours in and around the buildings. You don't supply meals in return for information. You supply the meals to folks in need and hope for the best. I relayed the information to the appropriate agency. They had heard only vague rumors. They went to work and as they say, the rest is history. The pen in this instance was mighter than the sword.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
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Originally posted by davidoNever been arrested on Duty......
I have found drugs that people have dropped, mostly all the BS I run into are wino's and Skaters, both pretty much in the same class neither one have jobs.
This implies you were arrested off the job, though.
Forum, does anyone know if Oklahoma has a state required background screening for security personnel? I still remember when a convicted felon (armed robbery) applied at my old employer. The State of Florida completely MISSED his conviction, yet a PI background check found it. The state revoked his firearms and security license when it was forwarded to them.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Originally posted by EMTFirefighterNo, it implies he was making a joke.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Originally posted by EMTFirefighterThat's pretty nice of you to call someone who engages in a recreational activity of their choosing a jobless wino.Robert
Here endith the lesson
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Biggest Drug Bust
I was working a detail for best buy after hurricane katrina hit.
A white female subject wearing orange tank up and blue jean in her mid 20's walked past me. i noticed closely do fact it was very cold in the store and she wasn't wearing a bra she left her head lights on. As she walked past me and a sale person the subject got ten feet away and pulled left side of her jeans . When something feel out them try calling out to her but she keep walking. when i got half way there saw if was glass pipe with good amount of residue . I then pulled out my latex gloves and put them on. I picked up pipe and when to LP desk and called 911 the dispatcher informed me that be sometime before they can get a unit over there due to them having a high speed chase that started with a hit and run and the vehicle that was hit was on fire.
She then asked if i could detained her until a unit could be sent. I sure i then went manger and informed them what was going one and I try take suspect down outside or remote area of the store so it wouldn't make a scene. I saw suspect in geek squad line she was only customer in line I called the geek squad cashier told him once he is done ringing up the customer to leave right away.( unknown to me a manger when got off duty state trooper she knew) I made my move to detain her informed her she was being detain for possession of drug paraphernalia and the suspicion of having narcotic on your person. As i was cuffing her she was saying i didn't know security could detain. People before I could respond to her the state trooper walked up and said yes ma'am he can and is if you don't like it I'll do it and flashed he's badge. about 20 mins late the deputies for st tammany arrived. They search her belongs found (5) crack rocks in little baggy and 2 more pipes. later i found out later the strip searched her at jail and found 10 more rocks in her panties.CAPTAIN KOOLAID 9594
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Hmmm Not sure I understand what her having drugs or any item non deadly or dangerous to others has to do with your duties to protect the store or its asserts. I do understand if you called the cops and told them that you witnessed illegal paraphernalia drop form a customers clothing and then watch until they arrive. Then it would be a he said she said and who knows what would have happened. I personally see not security related crime here but different states have different rules and am probably wrong. Won't be the first timeTHE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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From what I've been told, here in Minnesota you can leave your post (and people do) to arrest people. Usually its restricted to crime against person, or things that started on property.
In Florida, of course, we all know what I'll say. Loss of license, possible criminal charges, etc for abandoning post while on duty AND for using force against someone other than to protect persons.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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There have been many, many times that we (CIS) and street crimes, TPD or Sheriff's Office have walked a housing community and make arrests and trespass undesirables. During these subject checks, we have found everything from marijuana, meth and crack to knives, guns and burglary tools. I have even been filmed by the crew from COPS during these " foot patrols" but I have never survived the cutting room floor (to my knowledge). As far as hanging on LEs shirt tails, I will tell you they call me on my personal cell phone when they want something to get into! Nathan, the instance you describe above has happened to me as well. You know "suitcase city" as well as I do.
Be safe,
Hank" We are determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on one hand and of overwhelming force on the other" - General George C. Marshall
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