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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jackhole
    Holy illegal, Batman! Workers have the right to assemble.
    Having a right and exercising it freely are two different things.
    Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by HotelSecurity
      Of course no one openly says that it was because they unionized. It's like McDonalds. 2 or 3 stores in downtown Montreal have unionized. They've closed within weeks. Apparently business suddenly got slow
      Yeah, I guess it's like diming your employer into the Dept. of Labor or something for violations, you're not going to get fired for blowing the whistle but you'll get fired for something else.

      Sometimes I wonder if my job would be better with a union (I used to work with union protection), but all in all I have to say they treat me pretty fairly. Human Resources is very good about making sure all employees are treated fairly. In fact they even make policies that benefit the employee and have absolutely no benefit to the employer, so I guess I've got it alright.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jackhole
        Yeah, I guess it's like diming your employer into the Dept. of Labor or something for violations, you're not going to get fired for blowing the whistle but you'll get fired for something else.

        Sometimes I wonder if my job would be better with a union (I used to work with union protection), but all in all I have to say they treat me pretty fairly. Human Resources is very good about making sure all employees are treated fairly. In fact they even make policies that benefit the employee and have absolutely no benefit to the employer, so I guess I've got it alright.
        You have a HR department. That's probably one of the reasons why. When operations staff control HR policies, then things get blurred quickly. People are terminated for "failure to perform" or "lack of loyalty." When an HR department, detached from operations, runs HR, the ops department has to justify terminations.
        Some Kind of Commando Leader

        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jackhole
          Yeah, I guess it's like diming your employer into the Dept. of Labor or something for violations, you're not going to get fired for blowing the whistle but you'll get fired for something else.

          Sometimes I wonder if my job would be better with a union (I used to work with union protection), but all in all I have to say they treat me pretty fairly. Human Resources is very good about making sure all employees are treated fairly. In fact they even make policies that benefit the employee and have absolutely no benefit to the employer, so I guess I've got it alright.
          Unions are not "bullet proof"!! The owner of my hotels loves to bust the union. Employees of the downtown hotel except Administration & Security were unionized. They were members of a very militant Quebec union. (It's in the news all the time). In 1992 business was bad. He asked the union for concessions (5 sick days instead of 7, cut in # of weeks of vacation etc, nothing about salaries). The union told him to go to heck, they had a signed contract for another year or two. The next month he sold the management part of the hotel to a friend for $1.00. He continued to be the owner of the building. 9 months later the Management company went bankrupt. (They even owed him money!). He transfered the hotel to a new Management company set up by another friend. All the employees (except Administration & Security ) were let go & rehired on an individual basis. Some departments of the hotel (banquet, parking garage, restaurant etc) were given out as concessions to 3rd parties. The rest of the employees were out of a job. They picketed in front of the hotel for 3 years!! (Didn't bother business one bit). Finally after 3 years he took the ones that still hadn't found other jobs back. By now they were 3 years behind the benefits being paid at other hotels. Also since he no longer ran the kitchens etc some skilled workers got jobs as cleaners.

          Workers at one of his other hotels have been without a contract for about a year now. There is no talk of a strike or even pressure tactics. They know what will happen! (It doesn't help that he owns the hotel next door that is set up like the one downtown, banquets & restaurants are concessions. The housekeeping staff work for a cleaning company. Last year they unionized. Within a short while that company lost the contract & a new cleaning company took over.)

          He's mean but everything he does is legal & as the saying goes "business is business" Since the union is very political & anti-English & since I wasn't really effected, I enjoy it! (My vacation after 20 years of service was cut from 6 weeks to 4).
          I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
          Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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          • #20
            From the FOP President

            This came from the president of the Grand Lodge of the FOP, Chuck Canterbury:

            I am writing in response to your email to the National FOP. We do not nor are we in the business of representing private security officers.

            We have no control on rumors but we can advise that the FOP is not organizing private security officers. We would support their effort but not under our banner.

            Sincerely,

            Chuck Canterbury
            National President

            If some lodge is trying to organize security, it isn't under the Faternal Order of Police name, and if they're trying to do it under the FOP banner, I have a feeling the Grand Lodge is going to want to know about it.
            Some Kind of Commando Leader

            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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