Security Stops Suicide at Empire State Building

[1stWatch]

Jamel Lee, 37, a security officer at the Empire State Building, stopped a suicidal subject who was going to jump from the top. He was assisted by an unidentified tourist who incurred a minor injury during the incident.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-350224c.html

Then again, Senator Hillary Clinton made it a point to make a blurb about the incident stating the guards were undertrained and they needed to attend SEIU's 40 hour "safe and secure" program. Considering the past two incidents where they performed in an exemplary fashion, that ladies and gentlemen, is pretty funny.

[Lawson]

Yeah, I like how the guards do well, two times in less than a month, stopping jumpers and how do they get rewarded? Being called undertrained. Good work Senator Clinton, you are a true hero to America.

[Echos13]

Is that not always the case. Higher ups don't like the idea that people not of an "offical" office take action and do a good job. They have to down play thier actions in order so promote thier own agendas. I hope they get some kind of recognition by thier employers at least.

[Lawson]

If nothing else... they've got my respect.

[Echos13]

Indeed, as mine. Especailly at the fact they were no doubt putting thier lives at risk. Not sure if I could work a skyscraper job.

[N. A. Corbier]

SEIU's 40 hour "safe and secure" program...

Where's some information on this? Who created it? Is it applicable to just unarmed "property protection" security, or all security? Is it a national standard?

It worries me when a generic union starts making up training standards that nobody's ever heard of, and has U.S. Senators advertising them.

[Knight Watch]

Safe and secure

[QUOTE=N. A. Corbier]SEIU's 40 hour "safe and secure" program...

Where's some information on this? Who created it? Is it applicable to just unarmed "property protection" security, or all security? Is it a national standard?

My guess is that it is like Illinois PERC card (Permanent Employee Registration card), some cheezy video's and a multi-guess test that you could pass with out watching the video's . and some OJT (On the Job Training) and is normally required when working for a security contractor like Whackenhut ect.

[The Lord of the Keys]

Its always good to see positive stories concerning security but it sure seems a strange place to put in a jab about training. Of course more training would be better for security guards in general, at least if its real training and not on paper only

[N. A. Corbier]

I found the SEIU Local's web page, and their "New York Safe and Secure" course material.

Basically, its 13 3 hour courses with an hour long test, based off thew Florida Model. 8 hours of this training is rehashing the training that the state already required you to have in NY.

However, they left some parts of the Florida Model out, which deal with (minimally) employee safety (Special Problems of Security), and put in... Customer Service.

It also provides Red Cross CPR and AED training, but no First Aid training. They are also providing a ... sister course for janitors.

[Ms. Enforcer]

Good job by Jahmel Lee the security guard at the Empire State Building, for stopping the guy from committing suicide. I hope he does in fact get the recognition that he deserves.

[1stWatch]

...They are also providing a ... sister course for janitors.

If that became required material they would start posting janitors up in the building and start replacing the uniformed personnel. Maybe they would even make a janitor the security department's supervisor. Wait a second, I think I've heard of that theme before.

[Mr. Security]

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Then again, Senator Hillary Clinton made it a point to make a blurb about the incident stating the guards were undertrained and they needed to attend SEIU's 40 hour "safe and secure" program. Considering the past two incidents where they performed in an exemplary fashion, that ladies and gentlemen, is pretty funny.

It's enough to make the s/o's want to jump next.

[CAR54]

From what I can tell by reading the article, the union has a beef with the guards employer at the tower and they (the union) contacted Sen. Clinton. Better training for security personal is one of her pet projects.

WE know the guard did a great job. He could just as easily have done nothing besides call the authorities. The guard grabbed the jumper and pulled him down, then I assumed restrained him. How would additional training have benefited the situation?.

[Lawson]

From what I can tell by reading the article, the union has a beef with the guards employer at the tower and they (the union) contacted Sen. Clinton. Better training for security personal is one of her pet projects.

WE know the guard did a great job. He could just as easily have done nothing besides call the authorities. The guard grabbed the jumper and pulled him down, then I assumed restrained him. How would additional training have benefited the situation?.

If he was properly trained he would have been more able to keep himself from letting his natural instinct take over and would not have been so tempted to try to play hero by stopping a man from committing suicide. No, he would have been able to stop and say, "Wait, this is a job for the police. And I am not Police" Then he would have actually been of sound mind enough to call the NYPD and have them do the job.

[darrell]

Yeah, I like how the guards do well, two times in less than a month, stopping jumpers and how do they get rewarded? Being called undertrained. Good work Senator Clinton, you are a true hero to America.

I HATE Billery and his man wife............. They look down on security, military and Law Enforcement as a whole. They think they are a joke.

That guard did a fine job in saving a life. I hope they keep up the good work.