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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mr. Security
    Poor guy never had a chance. These "animals" remind me of a pack of wolves. Do you remember a few years ago when that truck driver in CA was pulled out of his truck and beat to a pulp? I wouldn't mind sending those punks to Singapore for a cane therapy session.
    Reginald Denny
    I agree but you are too kind. They need something a bit more "stern".
    I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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    • #32
      Racism

      I hate racism. Laws cannot solve this problem because it stems from one's heart. It is a learned behavior but, fortunately, one that can be unlearned. It exists in police departments and security as well. I remember one incident with a Miami-Dade police officer (a major; off duty) that was driving through Georgia (SC ?). He was stopped by a deputy who had been warned by a judge to stop profiling black motorists who used this part of the highway on their way to and from Florida.

      One thing led to another and the black major was pepper sprayed, tackled, cuffed, and arrested by 3 white deputies. The case went to trial with this officer's freedom and career on the line. Fortunately, he was found not guilty on the serious felonies, and guilty only on a misdemeanor due to his role in the confrontation. If this officer had been white, he probably wouldn't have been stopped, and if he were pulled over, would have been cut-loose after identifying himself as a police officer.
      Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mr. Security
        I hate racism. Laws cannot solve this problem because it stems from one's heart. It is a learned behavior but, fortunately, one that can be unlearned. It exists in police departments and security as well. I remember one incident with a Miami-Dade police officer (a major; off duty) that was driving through Georgia (SC ?). He was stopped by a deputy who had been warned by a judge to stop profiling black motorists who used this part of the highway on their way to and from Florida.

        One thing led to another and the black major was pepper sprayed, tackled, cuffed, and arrested by 3 white deputies. The case went to trial with this officer's freedom and career on the line. Fortunately, he was found not guilty on the serious felonies, and guilty only on a misdemeanor due to his role in the confrontation. If this officer had been white, he probably wouldn't have been stopped, and if he were pulled over, would have been cut-loose after identifying himself as a police officer.
        Yes sir, you are correct. I can tell stories all day long about that sort of thing.
        I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
          Strangely enough, I've had 911 dispatchers get pissed off if your not right there to give them real-time infomation. This only happens after you identify yourself as security, because the 911 dispatcher usually asks who you are when your reporting these things.
          Heck, they do the same thing to their own officers!
          I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tennsix
            Heck, they do the same thing to their own officers!
            Security dispatchers I've worked around are really bad about that. It is especially annoying when they get loud and abusive right over the radio and you know good and well they have no field experience whatsoever. They believe they are controlling every movement of each incident that goes down. I like to call that kind of dispatcher an "armchair sergeant".
            "We appreciate all the hard work you've done, the dedicated hours you have worked, and the lives you have saved. However, since this is your third time being late to work, we are terminating your employment here."

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 1stWatch
              Security dispatchers I've worked around are really bad about that. It is especially annoying when they get loud and abusive right over the radio and you know good and well they have no field experience whatsoever. They believe they are controlling every movement of each incident that goes down. I like to call that kind of dispatcher an "armchair sergeant".
              Isn't is a small world?!

              Like Mr. Security, I am a former E911 dispatcher (20 years ago). As much as I hate say it, you are right. There are a lot of police dispatchers like that.
              I believe I speak for everyone here sir, when I say, to Hell with our orders.
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              • #37
                about 70% of my department is African American and Latino, i have no problem with either. However, to expound on what i said and should have clarified, i can see how people become racist, seeing a video like that, and hearing about similar incidents involving minorities makes it very easy to attribute the deviant behavior to a particular race's stereotypical attributes. Seeing such a shocking video like that sparks a desire to hate them and everything about those individuals, in which then race gets included. However, that not being the case for me you can rest assured that i harbor no ill will towards any race, only against those individuals who commit such violent acts as seen in the video.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by knotquiteawake
                  about 70% of my department is African American and Latino, i have no problem with either. However, to expound on what i said and should have clarified, i can see how people become racist, seeing a video like that, and hearing about similar incidents involving minorities makes it very easy to attribute the deviant behavior to a particular race's stereotypical attributes. Seeing such a shocking video like that sparks a desire to hate them and everything about those individuals, in which then race gets included. However, that not being the case for me you can rest assured that i harbor no ill will towards any race, only against those individuals who commit such violent acts as seen in the video.
                  I appreciate the sentiment of your rebuttal but people that are so easily influenced by a TV video clip are ignorant (the true meaning of the word). It seems comments, such as yours, are only made when the suspects are of certain ethnic faction.

                  You would not have made that comment had the suspects been Caucasian. The incident would have been no less horrendous, had the suspects been white. Your inference of race/ethnicity being a factor in this incident is troubling. And yes, you did infer that.

                  Be careful of what you say and how you say it, especially if three-fourths of your colleagues are black and Latino. You would not have made that comment while in their company
                  Last edited by Tennsix; 04-26-2006, 08:44 AM.
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