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  • 1stWatch
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    This bit of sensationalism is brought forth by a group of people who wish to portray every security guard as a walking talking civil rights violation. They think of police in a similar yet more vicious light. Any type of force used by a person doing our job would be thought of as evil if successful.

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  • Mr. Security
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    I can hear it now: "He was such a good boy. So caring and willing to help others." What about those convictions he had? "Oh, he was getting his life straight, man. He wasn't really a bad person."

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/p...65/1023/NEWS07
    Julia Taylor, whose daughter, Quishawnda, 19, has a 5-month-old son with Coleman, said the slain man was an aspiring rapper whose music "will go forth." She said her daughter "is not coping at all."

    Yonkers police released a mug shot of Coleman yesterday, but they would not comment on when it was taken and under what circumstances.

    "It's not right, a security guard doing that," said Charles Epps Jr., a friend of Coleman's.

    Epps said he and Coleman had been together hours earlier to watch the welterweight championship boxing match between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Zab Judah on Saturday.

    "There was no justification to put a hand on him," Epps said. "He wasn't supposed to have a weapon on him anyway."
    From this, we learn that 1) A security guard should not touch people, nor carry weapons, and 2) This guy's rap career just took off.
    Last edited by N. A. Corbier; 04-15-2006, 12:00 AM.

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  • 1stWatch
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    What I want to know is where did the knife come from? Did the security guard have it or did it come from somewhere else and end up being used by the security guard? Also, what degree of force was he being faced with if it was self defense as he claims and what is his physical stature and/or ailments compared to the other two?

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  • OzPatrol
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    I have to agree with a couple of other post in regards to the initial post. There has to be more to the altercation than what little information was provided.

    However, I don't think he will be able to prove justified use of force.

    Originally posted by Tennsix
    I wonder if that officer will post on the "Handling Drunks" thread.
    *laugh*

    If he does, perhaps there should be a disclaimer added?

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  • Jackhole
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    Originally posted by The_Mayor
    It seems that every time a guard kills someone they are always charged with murder.
    As they should be, unless it was justified.

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  • talon
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    Also...

    In North Carolina S/O's must score an 80% on the range while the almighty LEO's only need a 70% so of course when I heard that it was a head shot I new it was an S/O involved shooting.

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  • talon
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    So, are they treating this as a police shooting, or did the detention officer shoot too?
    In North Carolina the State Bearau of Investigations also investigates shootings by Private Police or Security as the case may be.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Police turned the case over to the State Bureau of Investigation, which looks into all shootings involving officers.
    So, are they treating this as a police shooting, or did the detention officer shoot too?

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  • talon
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    One for the good guys...

    Inmate shot in escape attempt, Durham hospital setting for drama

    News Observer

    DURHAM -- A Durham County jail inmate, taken to Durham Regional Hospital after complaining of a stomach ailment, escaped Thursday, carjacked a nurse's sedan and was shot in the head by a security guard, authorities said.
    The inmate, identified as Vincent Sigona , 35, of Stadium Drive in Durham, was taken to Duke Hospital in critical condition after the 5 p.m. shooting and was in surgery Thursday night, Durham police Lt. Norman Blake said.

    Sigona was taken to Duke because it has a higher-level trauma center, said Richard Puff, a Duke Hospital spokesman.

    "He was in one of the treatment rooms, and his shackles were off, and he saw an opportunity to run," Blake said. "To sum it up, it was a hectic scene. ... The circumstances surrounding the shooting are under investigation."

    Blake said Sigona had been at the jail because he failed to appear in court on a larceny charge. He was being held on $6,000 bail. Blake said he did not know how long Sigona had been at the jail or what his medical condition was. Records show the 2002 larceny case involves a charge of possessing stolen goods; Sigona also faces an unrelated felony charge of possessing a stolen vehicle, but he has no convictions here.

    Blake said he did not know whether the stomach complaint was a ruse.

    The security guard, identified as Richard Janik of Safeway Patrol & Security, and the nurse were not injured. Safeway provides security for the hospital.

    The "chaotic" incident began Thursday afternoon when Sigona was taken to Durham Regional for a routine medical examination.

    He was in a treating room where his shackles and handcuffs were off. He was never left alone by the jail detention officer who accompanied him, said Chief Deputy Wes Crabtree of the Durham County Sheriff's Office.

    Blake said he did not know how long Sigona had been in the treatment room before he bolted. As he was being chased by the detention officer and security guard, Blake said, Sigona confronted a nurse in the employee parking lot.

    "She was [dragged] from her vehicle," Blake said. "She had just pulled into the parking spot. ... He jumped behind the wheel and attempted to get away."

    Blake said the fleeing man was able to drive about 30 feet. "In the process, he was shot by the security guard," Blake said. Police were investigating whether there was a struggle or whether the shooting caused the car to smash into the concrete base of a light pole.

    The impact smashed the windshield of the car, a black Toyota Camry. The hood and front bumper were crushed, and both air bags were deployed. The impact also ripped off the bumper of a white Toyota Avalon parked next to the light.

    Officers cordoned off the parking lot as investigators combed the Camry for evidence.

    Janik was taken to police headquarters for questioning. "He's shaken, naturally, after shooting someone," Blake said.

    Blake said Sigona would face another charge if he survives. "There's a lot of questions that need to be answered," he said.

    Police turned the case over to the State Bureau of Investigation, which looks into all shootings involving officers. The Durham County Sheriff's Office also is conducting an internal investigation of the detention officer's handling of the prisoner.

    Crabtree, the chief deputy, said he had not been able to speak with the detention officer because the officer was at Duke Hospital with Sigona.

    The detention officer had the authority to remove the inmate's shackles and handcuffs if he deemed the situation safe, he said.

    Crabtree said he couldn't recall a similar incident. Kevin Sowers, interim chief executive officer of Durham Regional Hospital, called the incident "unfortunate."

    "We have appropriate procedures in place to handle inmates," he said. "It's a part of everyday business."

    Sowers said hospital functions were not affected by the incident. He said the nurse is safe.

    "We are most concerned about her safety and security, so we are taking care of her needs at this time," he said.

    The sheriff's office has been embarrassed by escapes in the past. In December, a convicted murderer overpowered a detention officer in the courthouse and escaped. He was captured at a convenience store seven hours later.

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  • 1stWatch
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    There has to be more to it, even though it still may be murder. Most press releases for security related shootings I've seen have some sort of disinformation or another.
    One in Dallas involving two on a golf cart who were pepper sprayed by two young men who were trying to take away their guns and kill them had a press release that said it was over some vague argument over the golf cart. That story spread around the whole nation and villified those two for life.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    This came from SPE Tactical. I noted there, as I did here, there's got to be more to it than that.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    It seems that every time a guard kills someone they are always charged with murder.

    Like Mr. Security, I too beleive that there is far more story.

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  • Mr. Security
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    I bet there is more to this story than what is in the article. A Guard doesn't just stab someone because they are an unwanted party. I'm sure the guard is not justified in the degree of force that he used. That's obvious. But I'd like to know what transpired between the two that led up to the stabbing.

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  • Tennsix
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    I wonder if that officer will post on the "Handling Drunks" thread.

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