How should we handle false accusations?

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

As Jake's experience demonstrates, people will sometimes falsely accuse us of improper conduct/enforcement action when handling trespassing issues. What do you recommend as a solution when this occurs and the security company is more interested in protecting themselves instead of backing their officers?

Carrying a recorder or having a video camera may not always be practical. What then? Get a lawyer and fight it or cut your losses and find another security job?

[Lawson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lawson]

I just found a new job. A place like that is not a place you want to be at anyway IMO.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

Any other ideas? It's no fun starting over again.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

What about just monitoring the trespasser, jot down the plate, and take no action unless the situation gets serious?

[Lawson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lawson]

I always make contact with the trespassers.

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False complaints are an unfortunate part of this industry. If you are unable to carry recording gear try to have an independent witness. If there are no witnesses it will be your word aganist theirs and we all know what a security guard's word is worth to the general public.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

False complaints are an unfortunate part of this industry. If you are unable to carry recording gear try to have an independent witness. If there are no witnesses it will be your word aganist theirs and we all know what a security guard's word is worth to the general public.

The security guard's word is worth even less at some security companies.

[Bill Warnock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bill Warnock]

The security guard's word is worth even less at some security companies.

That is why it is so important to have a written report in your log or on whatever stationery you are provided.
I don't fault some guards. They do not have a basic understanding of the language. What they do know about it, according to one of my academy instructors, "could be printed with a grease pencil on the back of a matchbook cover."
For those of us who have developed good language skills, we should consider it a blessing.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[N. A. Corbier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close N. A. Corbier]

What about just monitoring the trespasser, jot down the plate, and take no action unless the situation gets serious?

This is not, then, trespassing, as no agent of the owner has informed the trespasser that they are, in fact, not welcome on the property.

That's one of the purposes of a security officer, to act as agent of the owner and formally advise persons that their presence is not wanted.

Also, there is a liability issue of just monitoring the trespasser, as you are contracted to protect the property. Any damage the cause could be turned around and pinned on you for failing to take action upon detection.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

What baffles me about some of these WBS companies is that they retain guards who have been caught sleeping several times, show up late or not at all, fail to wear the proper uniform, carry a personal firearm to an unarmed site, are plain lazy and generally unprofessional/incompetent. Then, when they have someone who cares and tries to enforce the post orders, they give them flak for the complaints they receive from the individuals who are guilty of client policy violations.

It's almost as if they WANT you to be blob who shows up and doesn't want to do anything.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

This is not, then, trespassing, as no agent of the owner has informed the trespasser that they are, in fact, not welcome on the property.

That's one of the purposes of a security officer, to act as agent of the owner and formally advise persons that their presence is not wanted.

Also, there is a liability issue of just monitoring the trespasser, as you are contracted to protect the property. Any damage the cause could be turned around and pinned on you for failing to take action upon detection.

That's what I believe to. Sadly, I'm not sure I have my company's backing, even though advising them to leave is stated in my post orders. Catch 22.

[N. A. Corbier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close N. A. Corbier]

What baffles me about some of these WBS companies is that they retain guards who have been caught sleeping several times, show up late or not at all, fail to wear the proper uniform, carry a personal firearm to an unarmed site, are plain lazy and generally unprofessional/incompetent. Then, when they have someone who cares and tries to enforce the post orders, they give them flak for the complaints they receive from the individuals who are guilty of client policy violations.

It's almost as if they WANT you to be blob who shows up and doesn't want to do anything.

They do. Its easier to replace you for incompetence than to defend you for incurring liability.

[Mr. Security Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr. Security]

They do. Its easier to replace you for incompetence than to defend you for incurring liability.

You know, you're right. I'm not going to push myself to excel when it's not appreciated. It's just not worth it.

[Michael Ledgerwood Member Find all posts View Profile Close Michael Ledgerwood]

This is not, then, trespassing, as no agent of the owner has informed the trespasser that they are, in fact, not welcome on the property.

That's one of the purposes of a security officer, to act as agent of the owner and formally advise persons that their presence is not wanted.

Also, there is a liability issue of just monitoring the trespasser, as you are contracted to protect the property. Any damage the cause could be turned around and pinned on you for failing to take action upon detection.

This may be true in your state but here in WA ignorance is not an excuse. You are considered trespassing whether or not anyone informs you of such.

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You know, you're right. I'm not going to push myself to excel when it's not appreciated. It's just not worth it.

The only thing agressive, proactive, preventative security work gets you these days is an appointment at the unemployment office.