Cuffs

[nightguard]

i finally got issued some new equipment friday, and they included some handcuffs. this is the first time i have ever been issued cuffs. they also issued some "sabre" pepper spray. but to the point, the cuffs are made by TRUE-SPEC. anyone else have any of these?? if so, tell me what u think about them, and if u dont have this brand, what brand do u have?

[mjw064]

I am issued two pairs of Peerless 805A's hinged handcuffs.
I also have 10 flexcuffs in my duty bag.

[Curtis Baillie]

i finally got issued some new equipment friday, and they included some handcuffs. this is the first time i have ever been issued cuffs. they also issued some "sabre" pepper spray. but to the point, the cuffs are made by TRUE-SPEC. anyone else have any of these?? if so, tell me what u think about them, and if u dont have this brand, what brand do u have?

I know you've been in security for 10 years - I hope you have received some training specific to the application of handcuffs.

[Tennsix]

I know you've been in security for 10 years - I hope you have received some training specific to the application of handcuffs.

Yeah... We do handcuffing refreshers about once a month.

[nightguard]

I know you've been in security for 10 years - I hope you have received some training specific to the application of handcuffs.

yea, i recieved training from another company when i first started. we had a meeting a LEO came down and trained us in it. we actually got a little pamplet with the pepper spray, i just hope i never have to use either of them.

[Tennsix]

You really should have more substantial training in OC. Perhaps the PD can help you with that too.

[Jedi]

I have never heard of Tru-Spec as a handcuff manufacturer. I do know that Galls and Quartermaster Uniforms both have their own branded cuffs, so this could be another supply companies internal line. When I took over this department, the officers had been issued the Quartermaster handcuffs. While I was replacing their crappy cut-rate duty belts, I also replaced their cuffs with a known brand (Peerless). I also set forth a provision in the uniform policy that authorized S&W and Peerless handcuffs only.

It is my belief that the gear that will restrain a violent suspect should not be purchased from the lowest cost manufacturer with an unknown reputation and unverified quality. Both Smith & Wesson and Peerless have been manufacturing handcuffs for a very long time and have earned a reputation for quality and reliability. My Peerless handcuffs are over 16 years old and work flawlessly... I know I can trust them.

[mjw064]

I have never heard of Tru-Spec as a handcuff manufacturer. I do know that Galls and Quartermaster Uniforms both have their own branded cuffs, so this could be another supply companies internal line. When I took over this department, the officers had been issued the Quartermaster handcuffs. While I was replacing their crappy cut-rate duty belts, I also replaced their cuffs with a known brand (Peerless). I also set forth a provision in the uniform policy that authorized S&W and Peerless handcuffs only.

It is my belief that the gear that will restrain a violent suspect should not be purchased from the lowest cost manufacturer with an unknown reputation and unverified quality. Both Smith & Wesson and Peerless have been manufacturing handcuffs for a very long time and have earned a reputation for quality and reliability. My Peerless handcuffs are over 16 years old and work flawlessly... I know I can trust them.

I have personally witnessed a defendant break a pair of HWC cuffs off his wrists, simply by twisting his arms.

[Tennsix]

I bought a set of S&W cuffs in 1982 and I still use them today.

[CAP]

yea, i recieved training from another company when i first started. we had a meeting a LEO came down and trained us in it. we actually got a little pamplet with the pepper spray, i just hope i never have to use either of them.

That's pretty scary. No training at all for the O.C.? As Tennsix advised, please push for the training as soon as possible.

[NRM_Oz]

Cuffing and OC spray should be trained minimal annually as every cuffing scenario is different. As OC is only permitted by police here, when I carried cuffs, it was a monthly refresher for 2 hours and the opportunity to discuss scenarios of injuries in cuffing etc or known faults with brands. My BOS brand cuffs were more expensive than S&W in 1993 when I bought them and still work fine but never been used apart from training. Buy cheap - get cheap !!

[N. A. Corbier]

In states where Sally Soccer Mom can buy OC over the counter, there's no incentive for a company to train their employees in its use.

There's no legal requirement.
There's no real liability requirement other than "Use this only in self defense."

After all, there is no training requirement for Sally Soccer Mom to buy it.

[gixxer32404]

i like peerless b/c of the double lock,seems more feasible than smith n wesson... perhaps b/c it's what i first trained w/ at the academy. i never really carried them as a so.

[Tennsix]

In states where Sally Soccer Mom can buy OC over the counter, there's no incentive for a company to train their employees in its use.

There's no legal requirement.
There's no real liability requirement other than "Use this only in self defense."

After all, there is no training requirement for Sally Soccer Mom to buy it.

Training would educate officers on it's effects, consequences of misuse, and what to expect when using it. Improper OC deployment can cause injury and can lessen it's effects.

[nightguard]

In states where Sally Soccer Mom can buy OC over the counter, there's no incentive for a company to train their employees in its use.

There's no legal requirement.
There's no real liability requirement other than "Use this only in self defense."

After all, there is no training requirement for Sally Soccer Mom to buy it.

yea, here in sc anyone can buy oc, and i asked about the training on it, but they said that the little pamplet would cover all bases. it has some diagrahms and such in it, and tells u "not to spray in an enclosed area".

yep, these cuffs are tru-spec. i have heard of clothes made by them, but not anything like this. i personally dont like them, they look like "play" cuffs, but they are thick and strong. but i do like the idea of s&w cuffs. i checked out a pair of peerless on ebay yesterday, they were up to $100!! cant swing that, but i will check around for s&w cuffs in the army-nay stores.