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  • #31
    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

    My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
    Not impossible in California. Although these aren't line officer positions that he is talking about and these jobs aren't what anyone would call plentiful. I know and know of a few people in the security industry making that kind of coin but they are the top security executive in big firms with wide ranging duties and accountabilities.

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    • #32
      Unless they are working overseas, I would have to agree with you EMTGUARD.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
        Not impossible in California. Although these aren't line officer positions that he is talking about and these jobs aren't what anyone would call plentiful. I know and know of a few people in the security industry making that kind of coin but they are the top security executive in big firms with wide ranging duties and accountabilities.
        Has to be it., because if we are talking rank-in-file California Security Guards vs California Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers, it's not a pretty comparison.

        BLS Occupation comparison tool

        Using that tool revealed that California Police/Sheriff's Patrol Officers ("street cops") average 67k per year where as Rank in file S/Os average 23k (only about 1/3rd of what street cops make).

        Those are only general statistical averages, but it indicates that when you take in cost of living, the vast majority of California's front S/Os aren't making very much.

        As for other sectors of the private security industry in California, , well, BLS has stats on those too, y'all feel free to plug in the numbers in that tool I link too, I ain't doin all that work for free .
        ~Black Caesar~
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        • #34
          Hell I will become a yank for that money just being a rank and file S/O on $150k US a year in Calif. Sniff - Sniff .......... would like to know where and when this good money is rolling in ?

          From memory, this would make them earning more than US based CPP details who probably have 20+ years of specialist military training and another 10+ years of private experience.
          "Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Sun Tzu

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          • #35
            Here in Minnesota one could easily say that Police Officers make more than double and in some cases triple what security officers make. When benefits are added in, the comparison gets way more shameful since most S/O's don't have any benefits.

            However, at the top tier there are security professionals in Minnesota that make more than cops. Thankfully, I am one of them. Although I would consider myself sub top tier. My boss and his boss both make six figures.

            The positions that routinely pay in the six figures are the upper management positions for Fortune 500 type companies.

            If you want to make six figures as a line officer you would need to be employed by a security contractor and be working in a dangerous part of the world.

            Anyone making the blanket claim that security work pays better than law enforcement work would be way off base.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
              Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

              My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
              How much do you think an Operations manager or Director of security in a large place makes a year? Give you hint DoS at a site with about 12 people total makes about $45k a year to start here in Florida. Now being a DoS on a site with 12 people per shift and you will be making closer to $90-$100k to start.
              Ethical Schizophrenia is the substance of heroes. -Frank Rich

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              • #37
                Here is some data I got from the internet:

                "The median expected salary for a typical Top Corporate Security Executive in the United States is $127,924. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
                  Here is some data I got from the internet:

                  "The median expected salary for a typical Top Corporate Security Executive in the United States is $127,924. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."

                  Wow....that is over 4 times my horly rate...if I were able to work 40 hrs/wk for all 52 wks/yr. Sad thing is...I have yet to see one of these guys out in the rain, sleet, hail, tornados, t-storms, etc. working. Must be nice to be able to watch someone else earn all your money...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by dougo83 View Post
                    Wow....that is over 4 times my horly rate...if I were able to work 40 hrs/wk for all 52 wks/yr. Sad thing is...I have yet to see one of these guys out in the rain, sleet, hail, tornados, t-storms, etc. working. Must be nice to be able to watch someone else earn all your money...
                    Your right about that dougo83. But just think of the burden that rest on thier shoulders, your responsible for your post and everything around it. They are responisble for the entire security system, if a part of that fails they have to answer to the higher ups. They are ultimatley responsible too if something happens to you (line officer). I cant even imagine how the Director of Security for the world trade center felt after he/she lost those buildings.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
                      Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

                      My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
                      Over 400 private security officers at my site. Base pay is $28 something an hour, plus $1.60 shift differential, plus profit sharing, plus all the overtime you want. Every few paychecks we get uniform allowance, and uniform upkeep pay. Full company retirement, 100% matching on 401k investments, full medical/dental with a $10 co-pay, 13 paid days off to start, more days off as you get seniority, education reimbursement, and a lot of other bennies. Most of my friends who only do very little overtime made an average of $81k last year.

                      My second level supervisor makes $120k base and has a large profit sharing allowance.

                      We arn't the only ones in this state that pay like this. I know of two other sites that pay close to the same but don't have as many officers.

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                      • #41
                        A lot of these companies will tell with a straight face "we offer health benefits". Sorry but a group plan that comes out of salary does not qualify as offering benefits.

                        Publicsafetyred, you have 400 officers on a single site? I need to sell my house and move wherever that is.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by publicsafetyred View Post
                          Over 400 private security officers at my site. Base pay is $28 something an hour, plus $1.60 shift differential, plus profit sharing, plus all the overtime you want. Every few paychecks we get uniform allowance, and uniform upkeep pay. Full company retirement, 100% matching on 401k investments, full medical/dental with a $10 co-pay, 13 paid days off to start, more days off as you get seniority, education reimbursement, and a lot of other bennies. Most of my friends who only do very little overtime made an average of $81k last year.

                          My second level supervisor makes $120k base and has a large profit sharing allowance.

                          We arn't the only ones in this state that pay like this. I know of two other sites that pay close to the same but don't have as many officers.
                          Man, if it wasn't in the PRK, I'd see about hiring on...btw...what kind of site has 400 officers working security on it? Military bases and nuke facilities don't even have that kind of manpower...

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                          • #43
                            florida rates

                            Originally posted by privatecop625 View Post
                            I just wanted some input from other peolpe on what they make for security,
                            (If u don't mind). Here is my deal.

                            I live in Kenosha WI, and I work in a hospital in IL. I travel about 30 to 45 min a day to get to work. The thing is that I only make $10.00 an hour, and we put in our 40 hours +. The hard thing is that I pay $500 ($250 bi weekly) a month for health insurance (PPO) after that is taken out i only live on about $900 a month with a reg 40 hours. Then i have my rent and cell phone. I am trying to find something in kenosha but there is not much open and if there is its only like $8 - 9 hour and i really can't stoop that low for work. Tell me if u think that is low for security. I am trying to go armed that pays a little bit more but i can find a firm that is hiring right now. Anybody have any ideas.

                            -Privatecop625-
                            I'm a florida SO:

                            These have been my rates in the last 4 years:
                            $7.25, $8.50, $9.50 & $10/hr

                            I monitor with a spreadsheet the advertised rates of security companies;
                            This is what I have for the average rate for unarmed--$9.83/hr....$11.00 being the highest on the west coast and $12.00 on the east coast.
                            The average for an armed is $12.17/hr....$14.00 highest rate seen for the
                            west coast and about $15.00 for the east coast (Miami)

                            I have seen the rates actually rise a little here since the economic
                            down turn and probably also that we in the Sarasota/Bradenton area (resort communities) have pretty high crime stats.
                            Last edited by secguy; 03-31-2008, 09:03 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by craig333 View Post
                              A lot of these companies will tell with a straight face "we offer health benefits". Sorry but a group plan that comes out of salary does not qualify as offering benefits.

                              Publicsafetyred, you have 400 officers on a single site? I need to sell my house and move wherever that is.
                              Please send me a private message with your real email address and Ill give you the info.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by dougo83 View Post
                                Man, if it wasn't in the PRK, I'd see about hiring on...btw...what kind of site has 400 officers working security on it? Military bases and nuke facilities don't even have that kind of manpower...
                                Gotta remember cost of living.

                                I'm in Dallas (well, ok, a half mile south of the city line, technically a suburb lol). In all of the 3 California cities the same size or bigger than Dallas (LA, San Diego, and San Jose) that $28 per hour is like $19 per hour here.

                                Thats about what our Campus Police Officers start at in my District, which is a good bit less than the contract S/Os down the street from my job make at the U.S. Federal Building, or in some of the better in-house jobs at area employers like Perot Systems, Texas Instruments or the various Defense Contractors all over the place (Northrup Gruman, Lockeed, Bell Helicopter ect ect).

                                On a side note, Cost of living was a problem for the Border Patrol in the past 2002 SFGATE article. 25% of the BP was depolyed in Southern California back then If I recall correctly. I remember another article where a BP agent who left for a local PD said something to the affect that 35k was damn good money in North Dakota, but it wasn't....crap....in Southern Cali lol.
                                ~Black Caesar~
                                Corbier's Commandos

                                " "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

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