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  • craig333
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    A lot of these companies will tell with a straight face "we offer health benefits". Sorry but a group plan that comes out of salary does not qualify as offering benefits.

    Publicsafetyred, you have 400 officers on a single site? I need to sell my house and move wherever that is.

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  • publicsafetyred
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    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

    My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
    Over 400 private security officers at my site. Base pay is $28 something an hour, plus $1.60 shift differential, plus profit sharing, plus all the overtime you want. Every few paychecks we get uniform allowance, and uniform upkeep pay. Full company retirement, 100% matching on 401k investments, full medical/dental with a $10 co-pay, 13 paid days off to start, more days off as you get seniority, education reimbursement, and a lot of other bennies. Most of my friends who only do very little overtime made an average of $81k last year.

    My second level supervisor makes $120k base and has a large profit sharing allowance.

    We arn't the only ones in this state that pay like this. I know of two other sites that pay close to the same but don't have as many officers.

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    Originally posted by dougo83 View Post
    Wow....that is over 4 times my horly rate...if I were able to work 40 hrs/wk for all 52 wks/yr. Sad thing is...I have yet to see one of these guys out in the rain, sleet, hail, tornados, t-storms, etc. working. Must be nice to be able to watch someone else earn all your money...
    Your right about that dougo83. But just think of the burden that rest on thier shoulders, your responsible for your post and everything around it. They are responisble for the entire security system, if a part of that fails they have to answer to the higher ups. They are ultimatley responsible too if something happens to you (line officer). I cant even imagine how the Director of Security for the world trade center felt after he/she lost those buildings.

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    Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
    Here is some data I got from the internet:

    "The median expected salary for a typical Top Corporate Security Executive in the United States is $127,924. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."

    Wow....that is over 4 times my horly rate...if I were able to work 40 hrs/wk for all 52 wks/yr. Sad thing is...I have yet to see one of these guys out in the rain, sleet, hail, tornados, t-storms, etc. working. Must be nice to be able to watch someone else earn all your money...

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  • CorpSec
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    Here is some data I got from the internet:

    "The median expected salary for a typical Top Corporate Security Executive in the United States is $127,924. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."

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  • mad_malk
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    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

    My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
    How much do you think an Operations manager or Director of security in a large place makes a year? Give you hint DoS at a site with about 12 people total makes about $45k a year to start here in Florida. Now being a DoS on a site with 12 people per shift and you will be making closer to $90-$100k to start.

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  • CorpSec
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    Here in Minnesota one could easily say that Police Officers make more than double and in some cases triple what security officers make. When benefits are added in, the comparison gets way more shameful since most S/O's don't have any benefits.

    However, at the top tier there are security professionals in Minnesota that make more than cops. Thankfully, I am one of them. Although I would consider myself sub top tier. My boss and his boss both make six figures.

    The positions that routinely pay in the six figures are the upper management positions for Fortune 500 type companies.

    If you want to make six figures as a line officer you would need to be employed by a security contractor and be working in a dangerous part of the world.

    Anyone making the blanket claim that security work pays better than law enforcement work would be way off base.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Hell I will become a yank for that money just being a rank and file S/O on $150k US a year in Calif. Sniff - Sniff .......... would like to know where and when this good money is rolling in ?

    From memory, this would make them earning more than US based CPP details who probably have 20+ years of specialist military training and another 10+ years of private experience.

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  • Black Caesar
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    Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
    Not impossible in California. Although these aren't line officer positions that he is talking about and these jobs aren't what anyone would call plentiful. I know and know of a few people in the security industry making that kind of coin but they are the top security executive in big firms with wide ranging duties and accountabilities.
    Has to be it., because if we are talking rank-in-file California Security Guards vs California Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers, it's not a pretty comparison.

    BLS Occupation comparison tool

    Using that tool revealed that California Police/Sheriff's Patrol Officers ("street cops") average 67k per year where as Rank in file S/Os average 23k (only about 1/3rd of what street cops make).

    Those are only general statistical averages, but it indicates that when you take in cost of living, the vast majority of California's front S/Os aren't making very much.

    As for other sectors of the private security industry in California, , well, BLS has stats on those too, y'all feel free to plug in the numbers in that tool I link too, I ain't doin all that work for free .

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    Unless they are working overseas, I would have to agree with you EMTGUARD.

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  • CorpSec
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    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    Publicsafetyred stated in another thread

    My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?
    Not impossible in California. Although these aren't line officer positions that he is talking about and these jobs aren't what anyone would call plentiful. I know and know of a few people in the security industry making that kind of coin but they are the top security executive in big firms with wide ranging duties and accountabilities.

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  • EMTGuard
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    Publicsafetyred stated in another thread
    Most cops around Southern California make approximately $80k a year (after three years). Most private security guys where I make get that pay and have better benefits. More importantly in the private world you can work your way up. I have a few friends that make over $150k a year and are only heading up.
    My BS detector is going off. Private security making 150K with better benefits than government jobs?

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  • gixxer32404
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    Well, hello everyone....I bet many of you thought I had a bad attitude towards security..... but I finally found a non-security job driving a truck. I pass by my house everyday. I only go from south Alabama to North Miami. I'm loving it. I'm much happier, and didn't have to take a security job for $8.00 an hour. And I don't have a supervisor breathing down my neck.I'm sitting at a truckstop w/ free internet access....woohoo. Heve a super great day!!!!!!

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  • Maelstrom
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    He doesn't work for the hospital, he works for a contract security company that the hospital has contracted to to observe it.

    So it would be up to the contracted company to make benefits part of the tender/offer when bidding for the Hospital contract, or don't people make those kind of arrangements?

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  • Mr. Chaple
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    Originally posted by Longbow11 View Post
    Seems to me most have already decided on the fate of the company, yet most are still work at a low paying job. Sure, security work is not the highest paid position out there. I can think of two other positions that require little education, and training and pay just as well i.e. janitors and garbage collectors.
    I wish we had the pay and benefits of garbage collectors here on my account. Those guys do all right.

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