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  • Justice_Hound
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    Originally posted by Limo LA View Post
    I'm not sure if we (California Guards) has right to search suspect's wallet to ascertain his identity.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, I believe California guard has right to search ONLY weapons and nothing but weapon, after arrest was made.
    No evidence, No drug, No merchandise, also no ID (as I believe) search.
    We can coincidentally find evidence or stolen merchandise and put them aside during weapon search. but we are not allowed to perform nothing but weapon search.

    Arrest him, inform him, search weapons, then take him over to LEO (actually wait for LEO will arrive) without delay.
    That's what I believe legal procedure for California guards.
    Courts in my state have ruled that a private person has the same powers of search incident to arrest as peace officers. We generally ask for consent if it a non- combative person. Any contraband found during a search incident to arrest is allowed in court. Only if my state had laws against possessing pipes and needles. We also have the power to forcefully take ID from arrested persons to fill out the citizen's arrest forms.

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  • Limo LA
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    Originally posted by OMG_Ihatethisjob View Post
    If you had taken him into custody, then you had the right to search his wallet (in his presence, + one other witness) to ascertain his identity.
    I'm not sure if we (California Guards) has right to search suspect's wallet to ascertain his identity.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, I believe California guard has right to search ONLY weapons and nothing but weapon, after arrest was made.
    No evidence, No drug, No merchandise, also no ID (as I believe) search.
    We can coincidentally find evidence or stolen merchandise and put them aside during weapon search. but we are not allowed to perform nothing but weapon search.

    Arrest him, inform him, search weapons, then take him over to LEO (actually wait for LEO will arrive) without delay.
    That's what I believe legal procedure for California guards.

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  • Ewfr 'Gomulee
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    Originally posted by Justice_Hound View Post
    Well,

    Today was interesting to say the least. Just after my lunch break I came back to the security office to one of my agents maintaining constant surveillance on a uniformed securitas security officer. When I inquired as to the situation I was informed that this young securitas employee had concealed a box of .45 ACP ammo in each of his BDU pants and was walking towards the front of our store. He passed 4 operating cash registers without any attempt to pay for the concealed ammo.

    We ended up stoping him at the front doors, id'ing ourselfs as store security and the officer decided to fight with us. He was reaching for his
    duty belt to grab his OC just before we were able to handcuff him. He's lucky that he didn't get a chance to spray us cause in my state would be considered Felony Robbery.

    WHY!!!!!

    I am disgusted to know that a security officer had the ethics to shoplift. And while in uniform to boot! Talk about a hit to the security/le relationship when PD had to come pick him up for transport.

    Justice_Hound
    A damned shame really, I hope is actions do not make it look like all of us younger guards do the same.
    Personally I think he should lose his job and be forced to work in a landfil site.

    Again it's a damned shame and hope no one here looks unkindly to fellow guards of a young age.
    Also, over here LPOs are looked down on by Licensed Security Officers, we are generally seen as the lowest of the low when it comes to security... in a couple of weeks I'll be licensed! WOO!

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  • Don of the Dead
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    It happens. Took out my partner a bunch of years ago, turned out she was stealing from day 1.

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  • Justice_Hound
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    Originally posted by OMG_Ihatethisjob View Post
    If you had taken him into custody, then you had the right to search his wallet (in his presence, + one other witness) to ascertain his identity. Did you check to see if he was really a licensed S/O ?? I've gone to my local thrift store and had sometimes found guard uniforms with the company's logo patch on them. Its possible he had stolen the shirt, bought it from a thrift store, or he's a terminated former Securitas S/O who never turned in his uniform. If I had been the arresting officer, I would had taken his state guard license number, and reported the incident to the state agency that regulates S/Os. I'm in California, and a report of shoplifting theft to BSIS by a California-licensed S/O would prompt the agency to immediately suspend his guard card. If he's convicted, the agency will move to revoke his license.
    He was state lic security officer. He had his state guard ID on a "security" lanyard around his neck. His employment has been terminated but it is unknown if he will loose his guard card. This is only a minor misdemeanor so it will be up to the Department of Public Safety.

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  • OMG_Ihatethisjob
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    Was he really a licensed S/O ??

    If you had taken him into custody, then you had the right to search his wallet (in his presence, + one other witness) to ascertain his identity. Did you check to see if he was really a licensed S/O ?? I've gone to my local thrift store and had sometimes found guard uniforms with the company's logo patch on them. Its possible he had stolen the shirt, bought it from a thrift store, or he's a terminated former Securitas S/O who never turned in his uniform. If I had been the arresting officer, I would had taken his state guard license number, and reported the incident to the state agency that regulates S/Os. I'm in California, and a report of shoplifting theft to BSIS by a California-licensed S/O would prompt the agency to immediately suspend his guard card. If he's convicted, the agency will move to revoke his license.

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  • Nauticus
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    Thats shameful.

    An old loss prevention supervisor I used to work for was stealing all the items that all the arrested shoplifters were stealing. One new guy, who he was training, caught him and placed him under arrest. A little bit funny and a little disgusting at the same time.

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  • The Lord of the Keys
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    I aways watch security officers from the company I work for if they enter the store I'm employed at for my second job as loss prevention. I figure they don't make enough money to buy anything there,I know I don't.

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  • CAPTAIN KOOLAID
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    Security Officer Arrested

    Originally posted by Minneapolis Security View Post
    What a disgrace. Reminds me of the NOPD officers caught on tape shoplifting from Walmart after hurricane Katrina.
    That wasn't shoplifting they out and out looting.

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  • Minneapolis Security
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    What a disgrace. Reminds me of the NOPD officers caught on tape shoplifting from Walmart after hurricane Katrina.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Well, at least he didn't have a gun on.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    DUMB DUMB DUMB !!! Next time supply a sign which says LOOK AT ME PLEASE AND WATCH ME STEAL. I guess he was not employed for his mental abilitie and ethics ?

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  • Justice_Hound
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    Originally posted by NRM_Oz View Post
    Was this clown in uniform at the time ?
    Yep he was in uniform, that's actually what started my agents surveillance of the security officer. He was looking at the fact that this officer was wearing BLACK bdu pants with his gray Class A uniform shirt. This is in direct violation of local securitas branch policy.

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  • official
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    Felony in Ohio

    Originally posted by Justice_Hound View Post
    Well,

    Today was interesting to say the least. Just after my lunch break I came back to the security office to one of my agents maintaining constant surveillance on a uniformed securitas security officer. When I inquired as to the situation I was informed that this young securitas employee had concealed a box of .45 ACP ammo in each of his BDU pants and was walking towards the front of our store. He passed 4 operating cash registers without any attempt to pay for the concealed ammo.

    We ended up stoping him at the front doors, id'ing ourselfs as store security and the officer decided to fight with us. He was reaching for his
    duty belt to grab his OC just before we were able to handcuff him. He's lucky that he didn't get a chance to spray us cause in my state would be considered Felony Robbery.

    WHY!!!!!

    I am disgusted to know that a security officer had the ethics to shoplift. And while in uniform to boot! Talk about a hit to the security/le relationship when PD had to come pick him up for transport.

    Justice_Hound
    As soon as he physically resisted in Ohio or threatened bodily harm (Reaching for the OC), it would have been robbery (a felony).

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Look up the word "stupidity" and it probably says "also see HIM". I know of LP staff who used to steal as well as LP staff from 1 retailer who would steal from competitors and vice versa and only during an arrest did I find out the truth from a weak LPO who just blurted out everything but had kept CCTV clips of 1 my LPO's (at a store) in action.

    Sadly, security, cleaners, merchandisers and even management are all in positions of trust and who still manage to have the desire to steal from their client or employer.

    Was this clown in uniform at the time ?

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