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    Chucky
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    Why is Jack Thompson on this forum?
    NA When I first saw your comment about Jack Thompson I had no idea who he is. At first I thought it was an inside joke about a previous forum member. Today after seeing it again I decided to Google him. I watched his You Tube clip with Chris Matthews. Now my head is about to explode. This guy is nothing more than a bottom feeding lawyer representing the family of the victims. I would guess that over 80% of the victims at one time or another has played first shooter games.

    In fact if this sponge has kids I'll bet they are not playing put the pink dress on Barbie. Co owning a first shooter site I can say that Counter Strike is an old game an we do not even offer it due to the lack of interest. Turtle Rock Studios released it in 1999 and since then has morphed into a fairly good game Half Strike. I would also suggest that the shooter Ho or Oh did not learn how to from a Video game as the reality of a game is designed for entertainment and extremely exaggerated. I would be more afraid of seeing Thompson on a campus. He has no hard evidence to back up his assertions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd0pbuhsQQE

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  • Mr. Security
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    Let me put it this way regarding violent video games: It sure hasn't helped any!

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  • craig333
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    Played my share of doom. I'm sure that for the emotionally disturbed person that does nothing but sit at his computer playing violent video games they might reinforce pre-existing violent tendencies, but that same person would have been that way pre computer age. He'd have read violent books etc.

    Excuse me, have to go log in to LOTR online. Make sure my dwarf has killed enough goblins for the day.

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    darkenna

    I'm not that much older than you... and I recall it being the other way around. The sheer amount of disrespect and bullying I grew up with scares me when I look back on it, and I can see myself traveling the path which would have lead me to being one of the crazy school shooters. I got lucky, and discovered a method for dealing with building rage.

    Now I am a well-developed and productive member of adult society. (Which is a bit scary by itself!)
    I guess it all depends on where you grew up too. In my small town in Texas, respect was demanded. It was not a question, you did it. Of course, as far as being bullied, I was a pretty big guy and a multi-sport athelete, so I never really got messed with much. I saw it rarely and it was usually handled swiftly. If you picked on someone, you realized real quick that some people had friends like me...

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  • NRM_Oz
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    I recall being on my first solo CPP assignment when the Port Arthur Massacre took place. I also recall another incident about 20 minutes from where I was living in 1987 when another mongrel came into a small shopping centre with an SKS and was randomly shooting people with an SKS rifle and even taking a shot on an open air train platform some 400 yds away with iron sights shooting a passenger. I think 1987 was also the same year of the Hoddle St massacre which was in a Post Office from memory.

    This resulted in an immediate ban on semi-automatic rifles, magazines were non removable (stripper clips were limited to 5 rounds) and the ban on mags like Sporting Shooter, Guns and Ammo and SOF. I know I was in the USA in 1988 and I bought 2 years of SOF mags from 1 surplus store only to see them come back for sale again in 1989.

    Like I said before all these things contribute but the internet is the worst offender as the access to information once classified is now freely swapped in 2 clicks with others around the world.

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  • Curtis Baillie
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    Don Of The Dead - Here's a link that should make you even happier.

    http://www.halloweenadventure.com/

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Your happy place is creepy, but isn't disturbing to me.

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  • Don of the Dead
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    THE gunman behind the deadly Valentine's Day US university campus shooting rampage sported a freshly inked tattooed of a gruesome image from an Aussie horror movie franchise.

    Steven Kazmierczak committed suicide after shooting dead five students and injuring several more at Northern Illinois University this week.

    Disturbing tattoos etched onto Kazmierczak's arms, including the trademark doll from the Saw horror movies, were one of the few clues of the fresh-faced and well-liked 27-year-old student's troubled mindset, newsagency AP reports.

    The Saw franchise is the blood-soaked brainchild of Australians Leigh Whannell and James Wan.

    The franchise, which last year released its fourth instalment, features a sadistic serial killer named Jigsaw and has been a huge box office earner in the US and internationally.

    Last month Kazmierczak visited Jason Dunavan who, along with other disturbing images, adorned Kazmierczak's arm with the image of the Saw doll, AP reported.

    The horror icon is shown riding a tricycle through a pool of blood with images of bleeding cuts in the background.

    Mr Dunavan told AP he was so proud of the Saw tattoo he enlarged a photo of it and placed it on a wall in his shop - a move he has since regretted.

    "I don't know if I still want that picture on my wall," said Mr Dunavan.

    The tattooist described Kazmierczak as timid and apologetic.

    "He was really, really mousy," Mr Dunavan told AP.

    Details are also slowly emerging of what is described as Kazmierczak's turbulent relationship with his on-again, off-again girlfriend and of time he spent in a mental health care facility, AP reports.
    "Disturbing tattoos etched onto Kazmierczak's arms, including the trademark doll from the Saw horror movies, were one of the few clues of the fresh-faced and well-liked 27-year-old student's troubled mindset"

    So being a Horror fan I have a troubled mindset? Its sad that some people simply look at what I take pleasure with in life and label people like me a nut.

    (I'm about to vent, with pictures, so feel free to skip this post if ya want)

    Horror is my escape. You all work in the same field as me, after a long day of dealing with assholes you'd LOVE to choke the life out of but don't because you are a professional and a decent human being, I like to go home, hang out in my "Basement of Dread" and watch people get chopped up. It helps me unwind and makes me feel better.
    Here is my "Happy Place"


    So according to these folks I should probably be watched, even thought I don't own a gun and am the type of guy who gets teared up at the end of the movie "The Iron Giant" (and by teared up I mean bawl like a baby)

    Everyone stay away from the scary man!

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  • darkenna
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    Originally posted by dougo83 View Post
    Alot of us kids (I'm only 24) are lucky enough to have been raised with respect, etc. I have learned that the disrespectful punk kids are actually the exception to the rule.
    I'm not that much older than you... and I recall it being the other way around. The sheer amount of disrespect and bullying I grew up with scares me when I look back on it, and I can see myself traveling the path which would have lead me to being one of the crazy school shooters. I got lucky, and discovered a method for dealing with building rage.

    Now I am a well-developed and productive member of adult society. (Which is a bit scary by itself!)

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  • Aussie-SO
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    Fortunately, we have yet to experience any of these horrific events
    It may not be a school shooting spree but let's not forget the massacre at Port Aurthur in Tasmania April 28 1996.

    Martin Bryant killed thirty-five men, women and children and wounded another thirty-seven making him the most notorious spree killer of all time.

    This event led to gun laws in Australia being changed drastically $500 million was spent in a buyback of more than 600,000 guns.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    BC thanks for reminding me of this incident because I just went and looked for it and found some stats done about shooting and the support of having armed citizens on campus, etc including school and college incidents. Hey I am all for it but I know the security is all privately run and whilst there should be LEO status (like a ranger) it costs too much money to follow through with the training but they are more interesting in chasing parking infractions because it brings an income in.

    I am so glad your 1st wife name is not named after my college as her name would be `OPEN` University as all classes are through e-learning with 4 semesters /year (I will finish my degree in 2 1/2 years rather than the usual 3 years f/t using the campuses of various colleges for lectures).

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  • Black Caesar
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    The only reason I remembered it is because my 1st wife's last name was "Monash" LOL. Talk about bad memories....

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Yeah that was just before exams at the end of the year. I had to look it up to see the details again as he killed 2 and shot 8 in total, hitting 1 classroom only and firing without any sense at victims. Excuse my ignorance but I had forgotten that incident and it was students and faculty who disarmed him I know that much. It was in the Victorian Campus (same state as Maelstrom lives in).

    I do know we had a scare last year at one of our university campuses (actually an old one of mine now used for Art) where a gunman was reported on campus (small campus) but precautions were taken and that was the end of the matter.
    NRM_Oz
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    Last edited by NRM_Oz; 02-21-2008, 08:05 AM.

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  • Black Caesar
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    Originally posted by NRM_Oz View Post
    Fortunately, we have yet to experience any of these horrific events but it will only be a matter of time before a copy cat or bright spark will follow the same format in order to be in the news.
    ???

    Didn't Australia have one in 2002? The Monash University Shooting where a guy shot 7 or 8 people?

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Fortunately, we have yet to experience any of these horrific events but it will only be a matter of time before a copy cat or bright spark will follow the same format in order to be in the news. I recently watched a Documentary of the Columbine shootings and how they were planned and executed by sick individuals and found that 9 years later we still have improved ourselves globally with the incident responses but we still have people who are staring into space saying "it won't happen to me" or "oh we need to keep this quiet or we will lose enrolments".

    Do some video games contribute to violence ? Yes they do (but I never threw a barrel after playing Donkey Kong as a kid). But again parents are so far behind their kids in technology these days or would be surprised how much information is listed on sites like face book.

    If you wanted to know about anything you found out in the playground or through the sports field - now you just google how to make drugs or a bomb or wipe out the school canteen (now that could be worth a medal for stopping that food being served to unsuspecting victims).

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