The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration

[sgtnewby]

What private information will you be giving that you don't give now? Your picture? No, they already do that. Oh your social. They got that now too. Fingerprint? Nope. But some states already do.

Chertoff stated that there was a "menu" of security verifications pertaining to info that states can choose from to be in compliance.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080111/D8U3VK8O0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act

[integrator97]

Chertoff stated that there was a "menu" of security verifications pertaining to info that states can choose from to be in compliance.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080111/D8U3VK8O0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act

Right. Like making sure you are who you say you are, when you get or renew your license. For instance, they would have to check birth certificates. Well, my brother was just ordering his, because he renews next month in Missouri, and they now require it and it can't be just a hospital one, has to be from the county. And Missouri is opposing real id.

So again I ask, what super secret info are they requiring that the government doesn't already have? I've seen none.

[sgtnewby]

Right. Like making sure you are who you say you are, when you get or renew your license. For instance, they would have to check birth certificates. Well, my brother was just ordering his, because he renews next month in Missouri, and they now require it and it can't be just a hospital one, has to be from the county. And Missouri is opposing real id.

So again I ask, what super secret info are they requiring that the government doesn't already have? I've seen none.

Did you read the links?

"the "common machine-readable technology" required by the REAL ID Act would convert state-issued driver licenses and identification cards into tracking devices, allowing computers to note and record people's whereabouts each time they are identified"

"the requirement that states maintain databases of information about their citizens and residents and then share this personal information with all other states will expose every state to the information security weaknesses of every other state and threaten the privacy of every American"

[integrator97]

Did you read the links?

"the "common machine-readable technology" required by the REAL ID Act would convert state-issued driver licenses and identification cards into tracking devices, allowing computers to note and record people's whereabouts each time they are identified"

"the requirement that states maintain databases of information about their citizens and residents and then share this personal information with all other states will expose every state to the information security weaknesses of every other state and threaten the privacy of every American"

Yes, though I don't put 100% stock in wickpedia. It's not an accurate source, especially for controversial things.

I haven't seen anything from a reliable source to confirm they will track you. There aren't going to be tracking chips. And lets see, you will have to use it to get on a plane or enter a courthouse. I kinda think they already have access to that information, assuming you're not travelling under a false id. How often do you use your DL now, where it is swiped? How often do your use a debit or credit card? A pike pass? If they wanted to track you, they could.

And common machine readable technology? Like the magnetic stripe on the back of my DL for the past 10 years or more?

What kind of information do you think they're going to have? Your picture, to make sure you are that person. This will make it harder to travel under a false identity, or to use false id to gain a job, a loan, etc. I don't think they're going to have a whole database like a credit report, etc. Besides, they already have all that, through the credit bureaus.