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  • NRM_Oz
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    As most of our police and security full timers work 12 hour shifts - this cuts down on childcare costs as going from say 3 days a week to 5 days a week makes that last day dead money.

    Some cleaners and school services staff work hours of 0700 - 1100 then 1600 - 2000. Unless you lived close to work I think these hours would bite big time.

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  • Chucky
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    Originally posted by craig333 View Post
    What do they consider a split shift to be?
    In this case you will work a couple hours in the AM then some in the PM. Try planning anything personal around that. I assume in the winter flights would be far and few between. The average plane is a 8 seater prop. Lots of private jets also.

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  • Nauticus
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    I'm a security screening officer in Canada, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head with your first post. Which is why I'm looking to get out of it.

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  • BUCKSHOT
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    I was at the providence TF Green airport not too long ago and I have to say they were the most perfessional looking TSA screeners I have ever seen. All nicely groomed and had their shirts tucked in.

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  • OpsMan1922
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    TSA is a joke. Minimal pay, crappy hours, and I've seen what they call a "screener".

    True story, while going on a trip to vegas a year ago, i went through an xray checkpoint and one of the guys on the machine recognizes me. Turns out he used to work for me at another facility and he steps from the xray machine (conveyor still moving) and starts talking to me.

    I'm looking in horror as people are putting bags through and getting them on the other side.

    Oh yeah, he was FIRED from my old site for negligence. Go figure.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Black Caesar View Post
    The TSA's Police Force was stillborn. They hired a bunch of people (I remember seeing the TSA Police posistion notice along with Sgt, Lt and Capt. posistions, considered applying but decided to wait and see), the 1st class was halfway through FLETC, then that part of the program got chopped.

    The people hired to be TSA Police officers were given 3 options: re-apply and hope for a FAM posistion, take a lower paying screener posistion, or quit. I remember hearing that most quit. It was the same as what happened to the old FAA Police all over again.

    Also existing Airport PDs raised hell about the idea as well.

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    So, an unsworn federal employee is doing what? Reporting to a sworn state employee? lol. Why do we have the TSA then, if they have no sworn personnel, only unsworn screeners?

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Monday week I agreed to meet my best mate's flight at 0600. Rushing to the airport on 1 coffee, I ran into the terminal as his flight landed and moved into the screening maze. Inside I was stopped for an IONISER test and agreed to the test and was told to get my bag first. I replied I had no bag as I was not flying today. The TSA told me - yes you are flying and I replied again "nope". Seems they had screwed up as they were to target flyers only until 0645 (airport was only now accepting flights inbound). I heard another TSA say to another "she did it again with someone else not flying". Not that I had an issue with being checked but it makes me wonder about who gets to use the brain amongst the TSA shifts operators as there is only 1 to share.

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  • Black Caesar
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    They then report said contraband to either the sworn TSA Police Officers assigned to the airport, or the local Airport Police Department or Municipal/County Police assigned to the airport.
    The TSA's Police Force was stillborn. They hired a bunch of people (I remember seeing the TSA Police posistion notice along with Sgt, Lt and Capt. posistions, considered applying but decided to wait and see), the 1st class was halfway through FLETC, then that part of the program got chopped.

    The people hired to be TSA Police officers were given 3 options: re-apply and hope for a FAM posistion, take a lower paying screener posistion, or quit. I remember hearing that most quit. It was the same as what happened to the old FAA Police all over again.

    Also existing Airport PDs raised hell about the idea as well.

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    Last edited by Black Caesar; 01-17-2008, 06:30 AM.

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  • craig333
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    hmm, crappier than my boss calling me up at all hours and asking if I can work *** cuz soandso called off?
    At least the benefits are good. Not like my company "we offer benefits, btw, you have to pay for them out your own pocket" crap. We'll see.

    So the site I was banned from (for reasons I've still never been told) has a guy call off. "hey, can you work that site" Sure, whatever. Get there and the supervisor says " I can't fill in, I have no idea what to do here" ./boggle

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  • LPAjh9558
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    Originally posted by NRM_Oz View Post
    Copied from the TSA Website as supplied in another post:

    Work Schedule: Full-time (40) hours per week. Full-time work hours for this position consists of shift-work on any day from Sunday through Saturday, which may include irregular hours, nights, holidays, overtime, extended shifts and weekend shifts, changing shifts, and split shifts. A Split Shift schedule is defined as any two shifts, lasting at least two (2) hours each, in one 24-hour period with a break of at least two (2) hours between shifts. Exceptions include additional shifts to support morning, midday, and afternoon or evening operations. Specific work shifts and schedules will be determined by the airport.

    Craig, IMO a split shift was say an 0600 - 1000 then 1600 - 2000 later that day. This sounds like it bites big time.

    As a comparison TSA Private Security in Australia (well in Sydney anyway) earn about 14% more than an award rate security officers as the specialist training of being an Xray Machine Operator qualifies them as level 3 officers (they rotate every 30 minutes) Retention is low as you only need to see the quality of staff working around our airports to know why. Boarding 1 last flight, I rushed to get through security and to get to my gate when at screening, a TSA Evil Woman stopped me and told me to Xray my suit coat (Cashmere Wool - no way). I asked why and was told either you do it or don't get in. I wore my suit coat and walked through as others in suits were not wearing their suits coats through screening. After a flight delay, I hit the lounge to find airline staff approaching passengers on entry who were all making complaints about this Evil Woman - seems she had an issue with frequent flyer members.
    I recently applied for a position with the TSA and remember seeing this also. And yes, it does sound like it blows "big time!" I'm wondering did I make a mistake applying there?

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  • glock27
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    I'm a CBP Officer. We have several TSA refugees working at my port. From the horror stories they tell of TSA - I wouldn't work for TSA.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Copied from the TSA Website as supplied in another post:

    Work Schedule: Full-time (40) hours per week. Full-time work hours for this position consists of shift-work on any day from Sunday through Saturday, which may include irregular hours, nights, holidays, overtime, extended shifts and weekend shifts, changing shifts, and split shifts. A Split Shift schedule is defined as any two shifts, lasting at least two (2) hours each, in one 24-hour period with a break of at least two (2) hours between shifts. Exceptions include additional shifts to support morning, midday, and afternoon or evening operations. Specific work shifts and schedules will be determined by the airport.

    Craig, IMO a split shift was say an 0600 - 1000 then 1600 - 2000 later that day. This sounds like it bites big time.

    As a comparison TSA Private Security in Australia (well in Sydney anyway) earn about 14% more than an award rate security officers as the specialist training of being an Xray Machine Operator qualifies them as level 3 officers (they rotate every 30 minutes) Retention is low as you only need to see the quality of staff working around our airports to know why. Boarding 1 last flight, I rushed to get through security and to get to my gate when at screening, a TSA Evil Woman stopped me and told me to Xray my suit coat (Cashmere Wool - no way). I asked why and was told either you do it or don't get in. I wore my suit coat and walked through as others in suits were not wearing their suits coats through screening. After a flight delay, I hit the lounge to find airline staff approaching passengers on entry who were all making complaints about this Evil Woman - seems she had an issue with frequent flyer members.
    Last edited by NRM_Oz; 01-16-2008, 07:49 PM.

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  • craig333
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    What do they consider a split shift to be?

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  • Chucky
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    The TSA here on Martha's Vineyard are all part time and have had an ad in the paper for over a year. The pay is only$13.83 per hour and requires split shifts daily and on call 24/7 due to the type of clientele. The fact is no one can live on MV that makes that little money year round. I would like to suggest that the government use contract Security and provide free transportation to and from the island. Or provide free billeting in one of those $30.000 Katrina mobile homes installed on airport property.

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  • HomeInCalifornia
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    FYI, TSA is currently hiring in many cities. Here in California, starting pay is $14/hour with 24% cost-of-living differential for locality. Here are job listings:

    https://tsacareers.taleo.net/

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