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  • flashlightcop509
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    I can't begin to recall how many times I've come on shift only to find the few (or one) remaining radio either left sitting in the charger turned on, placed in the charger incorrectly with no terminal contact, or both...

    I've left memo's posted RIGHT ABOVE the charging stations, as well as in the daily passdown log regarding this, and yet I still find radio's that will for all intents and purposes, be dead halfway through a shift...

    At my site, we use Motorola HT750's which IMHO, are good radios; problem is, the base chargers for those particular radios have charging slots that are too big front to back and when you put the radio in, you may think the contacts are being made, but they're not. This is why I tell my Officers to wait and make sure the "charging" light comes on before leaving...

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  • EMTGuard
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    Alright, so we've learned that sometimes it's not a good idea to leave the radio on in it's charger. It's just something regularly done at my site. The officer is sent up to the guard booth with a portable radio and a charger. When he's not walking around the SO can leave the radio in the charger to stay topped off. Many here say it's a bad idea. OK, let's get past that for a minute.
    If the fracking radio is going dead don't just turn it off. Call for a spare battery or radio to be sent out to replace your failing battery. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Alaska Security
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    FYI some radios will destroy the charger if it is left on in the charger. Motorolas are classically known for this.

    If you need a radio at a static position, get a base station or a mobile unit set up as such, don't rely on a handheld.

    I have a handheld that is kept with the truck... I swap out batteries on it every time I assume post, and it's on my person if I'm not in my vehicle. When I'm just opening a gate or something I don't bother carrying it, but I turn up the mobile unit in the truck so I can hear any radio calls that go over the net.

    Did you at least FIRE that sleeping guard?

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  • junkyarddog
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    These stories make me glad we run the system we do. Half hour check-ins and if your 15 minutes late, the dispatcher tries to check in with you. If he can't get in touch with you, someone is sent to your post to check on you. You turn your radio off and you get a training citation on the issue. After that is disciplinary action.

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  • Maelstrom
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    Originally posted by kingsman View Post
    Every unit we use needs to be off when recharging or you will damage the battery.
    Originally posted by HotelSecurity
    I don't know why but it does say "turn radio off before charging" on a sticker in the bottom of the Motorola chargers.
    That would imply that the radios are trickle charged then, thus the voltage used in standby mode would exceed Vin from the charger... in which case I can see how the batteries would be severely effected

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  • kingsman
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    We were told to drain the battery completely before recharging our units. One of the shift supervisors took this to mean he had to drain all battery's on his shift and then recharge them.


    we would be lucky to find a charged battery when we got to work.

    Every unit we use needs to be off when recharging or you will damage the
    battery.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by Maelstrom View Post
    How so? logically if the standby voltage drain is less than that provided by the charging deck it'd just take longer to charge wouldn't it?
    I don't know why but it does say "turn radio off before charging" on a sticker in the bottom of the Motorola chargers.

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  • Maelstrom
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    Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
    If your batteries are Nickle-Metal, leaving the radio on while on a charger is murder for these batteries.
    How so? logically if the standby voltage drain is less than that provided by the charging deck it'd just take longer to charge wouldn't it?



    Originally posted by HotelSecurity
    Speaking of Uniden & beeping when the batteries get low, that is something that drives me crazy with my Uniden Bearcat scanner. The annoying beeping!
    LMAO I know what you mean, Uniden love their 'beeps' just try using one of their dedicated mobile transceivers

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  • LPAjh9558
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    With our batteries, you could be right in the middle of calling in a suspect and all the sudden...BEEP. And then if you still try using it, it's the same thing again. Plus there's no way of knowing if the newer ones work.

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  • FireEMSPolice
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    If your batteries are Nickle-Metal, leaving the radio on while on a charger is murder for these batteries.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by Maelstrom View Post
    Well... you could farm out those Kenwoods, trade them in or just use them for spares after acquiring additional Motorolas, alternatively if they've got the original battery packs you could go for the higher capacity components

    The definite advantage of individual cell applications is you can swap out the sick cell, drain it independently of the group OR better yet upgrade (them all) to the newer 2500~2800maH capacity cells on the market

    FWIW even the basic Uniden 2way rigs have that handy 'beeping' PTT with low batteries feature
    The Kenwoods are the new ones . On the good side the batteries last, even after almost a year's use, 2 complete 8 hour shifts.

    Speaking of Uniden & beeping when the batteries get low, that is something that drives me crazy with my Uniden Bearcat scanner. The annoying beeping!

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  • Hank1
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    We run into this from time to time. Here, you are subject to disciplinary action if you are habitual offender. It is a pet peeve of mine.

    Be Safe,

    Hank

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  • Maelstrom
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    Well... you could farm out those Kenwoods, trade them in or just use them for spares after acquiring additional Motorolas, alternatively if they've got the original battery packs you could go for the higher capacity components

    The definite advantage of individual cell applications is you can swap out the sick cell, drain it independently of the group OR better yet upgrade (them all) to the newer 2500~2800maH capacity cells on the market

    FWIW even the basic Uniden 2way rigs have that handy 'beeping' PTT with low batteries feature
    Last edited by Maelstrom; 12-17-2007, 09:09 PM.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by LPAjh9558 View Post
    We use Kenwood radios (I don't remember the model #'s). Most of the time they work just fine. Lately though, even the newer batteries won't hold a charge...go figure huh
    we have 3 Kenwood's & 6 Motorola's. We like to use the radios until they are completely dead before putting them on charge even though they are Nickle Metal Hydrite. The problem with the Kenwood radios is that when the battery goes, it goes. No warning. You could be in the middle of calling for help & it stops transmitting. The Motorola radios beep when you push the PTT when the battery is getting low but still gives you time to go & change the battery.

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    Hey Dougo83, you ought two buy the two lovebirds a CHEAP pair of
    walkie-talkies to use, and when giving it to them, tell them that the rest of you want to stay alive, so please don't use the work radio's for their B.S. anymore.

    Hopefully that will make them realize how important the ability for you to use the radio is, and they will knock off the love boat talk. If it works, hopefully they will give you the cheapo radio's back that you bought, and you can bring them back for a refund.
    I think the biggest problem is that they are young. Younger than all 3 of us bouncers and probably most of the waitresses/bartenders. What we have done for now is just switch our channel so we can communicate and we gave a radio to the dj so he can call the mgrs over the PA if we actually need them. We have cut in on their conversations and told them the STFU, but it doesn't seem to work. I guess when someone gets really hurt and there's a lawsuit, they'll figure it out...

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