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  • NRM_Oz
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    Interesting Post - thanks for the info on Disney's other operations.

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  • The Hussard
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    Working at Dysney is like being a cop in a medium size city as i see

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    If they are sworn law enforcement officers under Florida Statute, then they can be armed without a Class G license, since they're certified law enforcement officers.

    If they are not sworn law enforcement officers, then to carry a firearm they must have a Statewide Firearms Permit + Security Officer License. There are no exceptions to Chapter 493 if you wear a gun.

    If you don't wear a gun, and work in an employer-employee relationship, then you're exempt from licensing and Chapter 493 in its entirety.

    If they're armed with guns (493 only regulates firearms, granting licensees special permission to carry anywhere), then they must have D and G, and are subject to the totality of Chapter 493 as a licensee. Doesn't matter if they work for WDW, the improvement district, or even a police department. If you are not a police officer and provide regulated services while carrying a gun (protection of people and property, etc al) you need a D and G license.

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  • bigdog
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    Originally posted by mjw064 View Post
    Walt Disney World is actually much larger than a small city. Now you may be referring to one of the 4 theme parks which exist at WDW (Magic Kingdom, Disney-MGM Studios, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom), each of which would be the equivalent of a small city. However the Disney property in Florida is over 65 sq. miles and actually contains 3 cities (Bay Lake, Lake Buena Vista, Celebration), which have mayor's and such and which are totally under the control of the WDW Company.

    You see, WDW is it's own government in Florida. In the 60's the Florida Legislature authorized the Reedy Creek Improvement District, which is WDW's Government Services arm, which has the same basic powers as any other county in Florida, including the ability to tax, issue bonds, regulate alcohol, have police and fire departments, a school system and even the power of eminent domain anywhere in the state of Florida.



    Reedy Creek Improvement District is a real government entity and is entirely under the control of the WDW Company, since WDW Executives are the Board of Directors. RCID has a 911 system which covers the entire property (including theme parks, resorts, hotels, business parks, office buildings, residential areas and 100 miles of public roadways, including a chunk of I-4) and provides dispatch and communications to RCID Fire and EMS Services as well as WDW Security. During serious incidents or when an arrest has occurred, there is at least one Orange County Sheriff's Deputy assigned to RCID and who is also dispatched thru RCID Communications who can handle prisoner transports or whatever else WDW Security needs his "Official Powers" to do. WDW Pays Orange County for the Deputy assigned to their district (much like a contract city or town when a state police force or sheriff provides police protection to a city in lieu of a municipal police force).

    WDW Security functions as the district's defacto police force and prior to the mid-ninties took a very proactive policing role in the district. Prior to 1996 the WDW Security Vehicles had FLORIDA COUNTY plates and red lights and sirens; however after a pursuit wherein a 16 year old passenger was killed and WDW was sued, the company started restructuring it's security division to take a less public role, although interestingly enough, WDW Security employees DO NOT carry any Security Guard licenses from the state of Florida ( D & G cards ).

    WDW Security Division is now divided into two branches (Resorts and Parks) after the highway branch was disbanded in the late 90's and motor units assigned to each of the 4 regions began patrolling the highways and roads in their region.

    The regions are as follows:

    Mike 1 -- The area surrounding Magic Kingdom and the North Service Area (where the WDW owned power plants, water treatment facilities, warehouses, are located among other things)
    Echo 2 -- The area surrounding EPCOT
    Sierra 3 -- The area surrounding Disney-MGM Studious
    Kilo 4 -- The area surrounding Animal Kingdom (which includes the South Service Area (where the tree farm and K-9 kennels are located among other things)
    Delta 5 -- The area surrounding Downtown Disney (includes some big shopping centers, some big apartment complexes where the 10,000+ Disney College Program people live and Hotel Plaza Blvd among other areas)

    Anyway, like a major police department you can get into all sorts of specialized assignments, depending on what you want to do:

    Plain clothes Loss Prevention Specialist
    Plain clothes Retail Theft Operative
    Uniformed Security K-9 Unit
    Uniformed Security Posts
    Uniformed Security Foot Beats
    Uniformed Security Bike Beats
    Uniformed Security Motor Beats

    Roughly 200,000 people are on WDW property at any given time, so it is a busy place 24/7 ... car accident's, suicides, domestic disputes, robberies, you name it, they all happen. Remember I am not talking about just theme parks here, which would in fact be one of the more quiet places you could work.

    I left WDW Security in 2002 and came to DC where I became a police officer, however my last post there was as Motor 35 in the Delta 5 Region. I would average over 100 miles a nite in my patrols and responding to calls. It was a very busy region, since it included Downtown Disney and Pleasure Island, which has quite a bit of alcohol related incidents in the evening and early morning hours.

    I had a blast with WDW and wish I could go back and do it again. Maybe if WDW gets their act together and starts their own real and official police department one day, I would return. Otherwise it'll all just be a very good memory.
    I always thought Disney security officers were sworn as orange county special deputies.
    Last edited by bigdog; 01-19-2008, 06:03 AM.

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  • CorpSec
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    Originally posted by mjw064 View Post
    Walt Disney World is actually much larger than a small city. Now you may be referring to one of the 4 theme parks which exist at WDW (Magic Kingdom, Disney-MGM Studios, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom), each of which would be the equivalent of a small city. However the Disney property in Florida is over 65 sq. miles and actually contains 3 cities (Bay Lake, Lake Buena Vista, Celebration), which have mayor's and such and which are totally under the control of the WDW Company.

    You see, WDW is it's own government in Florida. In the 60's the Florida Legislature authorized the Reedy Creek Improvement District, which is WDW's Government Services arm, which has the same basic powers as any other county in Florida, including the ability to tax, issue bonds, regulate alcohol, have police and fire departments, a school system and even the power of eminent domain anywhere in the state of Florida.

    Reedy Creek Improvement District is a real government entity and is entirely under the control of the WDW Company, since WDW Executives are the Board of Directors. RCID has a 911 system which covers the entire property (including theme parks, resorts, hotels, business parks, office buildings, residential areas and 100 miles of public roadways, including a chunk of I-4) and provides dispatch and communications to RCID Fire and EMS Services as well as WDW Security. During serious incidents or when an arrest has occurred, there is at least one Orange County Sheriff's Deputy assigned to RCID and who is also dispatched thru RCID Communications who can handle prisoner transports or whatever else WDW Security needs his "Official Powers" to do. WDW Pays Orange County for the Deputy assigned to their district (much like a contract city or town when a state police force or sheriff provides police protection to a city in lieu of a municipal police force).

    WDW Security functions as the district's defacto police force and prior to the mid-ninties took a very proactive policing role in the district. Prior to 1996 the WDW Security Vehicles had FLORIDA COUNTY plates and red lights and sirens; however after a pursuit wherein a 16 year old passenger was killed and WDW was sued, the company started restructuring it's security division to take a less public role, although interestingly enough, WDW Security employees DO NOT carry any Security Guard licenses from the state of Florida ( D & G cards ).

    WDW Security Division is now divided into two branches (Resorts and Parks) after the highway branch was disbanded in the late 90's and motor units assigned to each of the 4 regions began patrolling the highways and roads in their region.

    The regions are as follows:

    Mike 1 -- The area surrounding Magic Kingdom and the North Service Area (where the WDW owned power plants, water treatment facilities, warehouses, are located among other things)
    Echo 2 -- The area surrounding EPCOT
    Sierra 3 -- The area surrounding Disney-MGM Studious
    Kilo 4 -- The area surrounding Animal Kingdom (which includes the South Service Area (where the tree farm and K-9 kennels are located among other things)
    Delta 5 -- The area surrounding Downtown Disney (includes some big shopping centers, some big apartment complexes where the 10,000+ Disney College Program people live and Hotel Plaza Blvd among other areas)

    Anyway, like a major police department you can get into all sorts of specialized assignments, depending on what you want to do:

    Plain clothes Loss Prevention Specialist
    Plain clothes Retail Theft Operative
    Uniformed Security K-9 Unit
    Uniformed Security Posts
    Uniformed Security Foot Beats
    Uniformed Security Bike Beats
    Uniformed Security Motor Beats

    Roughly 200,000 people are on WDW property at any given time, so it is a busy place 24/7 ... car accident's, suicides, domestic disputes, robberies, you name it, they all happen. Remember I am not talking about just theme parks here, which would in fact be one of the more quiet places you could work.

    I left WDW Security in 2002 and came to DC where I became a police officer, however my last post there was as Motor 35 in the Delta 5 Region. I would average over 100 miles a nite in my patrols and responding to calls. It was a very busy region, since it included Downtown Disney and Pleasure Island, which has quite a bit of alcohol related incidents in the evening and early morning hours.

    I had a blast with WDW and wish I could go back and do it again. Maybe if WDW gets their act together and starts their own real and official police department one day, I would return. Otherwise it'll all just be a very good memory.

    Very interesting stuff! What is the pay like? Are the officers armed? How do they get away without being licensed?

    If they are responding to domestics and robberies and the like unarmed I think they are asking for trouble.

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  • Security
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    MJW, thanks for your post. I'm going to send you a PM, if you don't mind. Probably sometime tomorrow.

    Thanks again,
    Erik

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  • mjw064
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    Originally posted by The Hussard View Post
    Working for security at Disney World is like working for a small city ,with all the people going there . Maybe they have Mickey Mouse undercover agent
    Walt Disney World is actually much larger than a small city. Now you may be referring to one of the 4 theme parks which exist at WDW (Magic Kingdom, Disney-MGM Studios, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom), each of which would be the equivalent of a small city. However the Disney property in Florida is over 65 sq. miles and actually contains 3 cities (Bay Lake, Lake Buena Vista, Celebration), which have mayor's and such and which are totally under the control of the WDW Company.

    You see, WDW is it's own government in Florida. In the 60's the Florida Legislature authorized the Reedy Creek Improvement District, which is WDW's Government Services arm, which has the same basic powers as any other county in Florida, including the ability to tax, issue bonds, regulate alcohol, have police and fire departments, a school system and even the power of eminent domain anywhere in the state of Florida.

    Reedy Creek Improvement District is a real government entity and is entirely under the control of the WDW Company, since WDW Executives are the Board of Directors. RCID has a 911 system which covers the entire property (including theme parks, resorts, hotels, business parks, office buildings, residential areas and 100 miles of public roadways, including a chunk of I-4) and provides dispatch and communications to RCID Fire and EMS Services as well as WDW Security. During serious incidents or when an arrest has occurred, there is at least one Orange County Sheriff's Deputy assigned to RCID and who is also dispatched thru RCID Communications who can handle prisoner transports or whatever else WDW Security needs his "Official Powers" to do. WDW Pays Orange County for the Deputy assigned to their district (much like a contract city or town when a state police force or sheriff provides police protection to a city in lieu of a municipal police force).

    WDW Security functions as the district's defacto police force and prior to the mid-ninties took a very proactive policing role in the district. Prior to 1996 the WDW Security Vehicles had FLORIDA COUNTY plates and red lights and sirens; however after a pursuit wherein a 16 year old passenger was killed and WDW was sued, the company started restructuring it's security division to take a less public role, although interestingly enough, WDW Security employees DO NOT carry any Security Guard licenses from the state of Florida ( D & G cards ).

    WDW Security Division is now divided into two branches (Resorts and Parks) after the highway branch was disbanded in the late 90's and motor units assigned to each of the 4 regions began patrolling the highways and roads in their region.

    The regions are as follows:

    Mike 1 -- The area surrounding Magic Kingdom and the North Service Area (where the WDW owned power plants, water treatment facilities, warehouses, are located among other things)
    Echo 2 -- The area surrounding EPCOT
    Sierra 3 -- The area surrounding Disney-MGM Studious
    Kilo 4 -- The area surrounding Animal Kingdom (which includes the South Service Area (where the tree farm and K-9 kennels are located among other things)
    Delta 5 -- The area surrounding Downtown Disney (includes some big shopping centers, some big apartment complexes where the 10,000+ Disney College Program people live and Hotel Plaza Blvd among other areas)

    Anyway, like a major police department you can get into all sorts of specialized assignments, depending on what you want to do:

    Plain clothes Loss Prevention Specialist
    Plain clothes Retail Theft Operative
    Uniformed Security K-9 Unit
    Uniformed Security Posts
    Uniformed Security Foot Beats
    Uniformed Security Bike Beats
    Uniformed Security Motor Beats

    Roughly 200,000 people are on WDW property at any given time, so it is a busy place 24/7 ... car accident's, suicides, domestic disputes, robberies, you name it, they all happen. Remember I am not talking about just theme parks here, which would in fact be one of the more quiet places you could work.

    I left WDW Security in 2002 and came to DC where I became a police officer, however my last post there was as Motor 35 in the Delta 5 Region. I would average over 100 miles a nite in my patrols and responding to calls. It was a very busy region, since it included Downtown Disney and Pleasure Island, which has quite a bit of alcohol related incidents in the evening and early morning hours.

    I had a blast with WDW and wish I could go back and do it again. Maybe if WDW gets their act together and starts their own real and official police department one day, I would return. Otherwise it'll all just be a very good memory.
    Last edited by mjw064; 01-18-2008, 11:32 AM.

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  • bpdblue
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    I have an idea...

    Based on your wanting to work at a place that has:

    1) lots of people;

    2) lots of things going on;

    3) and is a walled in site, (I added this one )

    I've got the perfect place for you to work, and they are HIRING NOW.

    Yes, I'm talking about that ever perky, who knows what's going to happen today place, the California Department of Corrections, also known as the CDC by some of their fans.

    You would absolutely get lots of action, experience, and a pretty good paycheck.

    Oh well, it was just a thought.

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  • Curtis Baillie
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    Originally posted by Security View Post
    Hey, thanks for posting this. I was wondering where I could find current job openings at Disney.
    Just so everyone knows, I plan on working more than one month as a PT SO before applying. I'm actually getting promoted to supervisor after the holiday season, and that will be a FT job for me which I plan on doing for a year. I don't plan on applying to Disney until after I get my MBA, though. But I was browsing through the job openings and it seems like the supervisory jobs with Disney Security aren't that difficult to get... Just a year or two of experience and a HS diploma. So in a year's time with my work experience and educational background, I'm pretty confident that I'll have a good shot at getting into lower management and hope to work my way up from there (I don't plan on becoming Director of Security right out of school, or anything like that.) Anyway, it's just a goal that I have set for myself... If it doesn't work out, that's fine. I just want to work in a place that has crowds of people and a whole lot going on. I'll certainly keep my options open.

    Thanks,
    Erik
    It's as simple as this: http://corporate.disney.go.com/careers/index.html

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  • Hank1
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    You may not be able to get right into Management. There may some "grunt work" involved first, regardless of degrees one may have. Good Luck.

    Be Safe,

    Hank

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  • Security
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    Originally posted by kingsman View Post
    https://disney.recruitmax.com/main/c...hType=Advanced

    My father works for Disney security as a security officer. He has no degree, but did work as a police officer back in the 1950's. Personally, I think it time he retired...
    Hey, thanks for posting this. I was wondering where I could find current job openings at Disney.

    Just so everyone knows, I plan on working more than one month as a PT SO before applying. I'm actually getting promoted to supervisor after the holiday season, and that will be a FT job for me which I plan on doing for a year. I don't plan on applying to Disney until after I get my MBA, though. But I was browsing through the job openings and it seems like the supervisory jobs with Disney Security aren't that difficult to get... Just a year or two of experience and a HS diploma. So in a year's time with my work experience and educational background, I'm pretty confident that I'll have a good shot at getting into lower management and hope to work my way up from there (I don't plan on becoming Director of Security right out of school, or anything like that.) Anyway, it's just a goal that I have set for myself... If it doesn't work out, that's fine. I just want to work in a place that has crowds of people and a whole lot going on. I'll certainly keep my options open.

    Thanks,
    Erik

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  • kingsman
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    https://disney.recruitmax.com/main/c...hType=Advanced

    My father works for Disney security as a security officer. He has no degree, but did work as a police officer back in the 1950's. Personally, I think it time he retired...

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Just a funny story related to Costumed Actors. Was working a CPP (Chaperone) Role with the Easter Bunny at a football match. We had 10,000 x 1" chocolate eggs for EB and friends to toss out to patrons before the first grade match (this was a redneck area). About 1/2 way round the field, we get smart teenagers and male adults who decided it would be more fun to peg (throw) them back at the promotions people walking alongside EB on his motorised cart together with my partner and me. EB was copping a hiding from the incoming eggs and my partner copped a few to the head (never take the position on the outer) as we called the police for support and disposed of the remaing eggs tipping bucket loads over the side of the fences to get rid to them. Poor EB was a very nice girl who was covered in bruises from the impact of the eggs on her face through the mesh for the mouth and eyes.
    Last edited by NRM_Oz; 12-11-2007, 06:15 AM.

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  • Curtis Baillie
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    The one time Director of Security at Disney held many different positions including:
    distribution
    VP of Operations
    health services
    risk management
    general services
    pest control &
    creative costuming and procurement.

    Later he had laundry operations, security, and transportation, all at the same time. Today Bill Turner is the director of U.S. Retail Operations at Nike, Inc. - courtesy of Loss Prevention magazine.

    Just goes to show there's opportunity to wear many different hats at Disney.

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  • Maelstrom
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    I'd have to agree with the above suggestion, being multi-skilled is an advantageous position to be in as you have more to offer the organisation, just curious... but have you considered contacting Disney Security directly? surely they'd be the best people to answer your questions related to organisational requirements etc.

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