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  • Mr. Chaple
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    Originally posted by Minneapolis Security View Post


    What a outstanding looking officer, . That look flys in Nebraska? He looks homeless.
    http://www.policelink.com/entertainm...---undercover-

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  • OccamsRazor
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    http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pag...&u_sid=2355124

    In fact, although some chains such as Bag 'N Save have posted signs and shopping malls such as Westroads Mall have added "no weapons" clauses to their posted codes of conduct, many small businesses haven't seen the need.
    Why didn't this solve the problem before it happened? Oh yeah, because ****** criminals don't ******* bother **** reading ***** and posted ************* for the love of *********!

    ********* for *****. ****.

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  • Black Caesar
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    Originally posted by OccamsRazor View Post
    Most likely a plainclothes cop or a detective who also works SWAT and responded from home...As a cop, when I was on 24/7 call-out status, I responded to incident a few times wearing my street clothes and an external vest in carrier that was in my trunk. One of those 'drop whatever you're doing and GO!' type of things.
    What I was thinking as well, though he might have been on duty as well, working narcotics. How do people expect you to buy dope from a biker gang (for example) if you're clean cut and have a military style haircut?

    3 years ago when I went to instructor school there was a guy who worked with a local inter-agency Anti Drug Task Force. We called him Jesus because that's who he looked like with the Goatee and long hair lol.

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  • OccamsRazor
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    Originally posted by Minneapolis Security View Post


    What a outstanding looking officer, . That look flys in Nebraska? He looks homeless.
    Most likely a plainclothes cop or a detective who also works SWAT and responded from home...As a cop, when I was on 24/7 call-out status, I responded to incident a few times wearing my street clothes and an external vest in carrier that was in my trunk. One of those 'drop whatever you're doing and GO!' type of things.

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  • Minneapolis Security
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    What a outstanding looking officer, . That look flys in Nebraska? He looks homeless.

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  • DeputyJ
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    Incidents like this are one of the reasons I never leave my house without my firearm. I would much rather turn the tide on the shooter than be a sitting duck.

    I must say that I am shocked that "No Firearm" signs don't deter potential shooters. Perhaps, all of the shooters at these type of incidents just happened to miss the "No Firearm" signs, and had they noticed the signs, they would have found a firearm friendly shopping center.

    Stay Safe

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  • FireEMSPolice
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    Alot of these malls post "No Guns" signs, even around here. Easy pickins for an armed shooter knowing everyone inside, including Security are unarmed and defenseless. Alot of them also have unarmed security but would rather pay EXTRA to have a police presence. How about this:

    1) Take the useless signs down or remove the "no weapons" language from your Standards of Conduct"

    2) Arm your Security Officers. Most of them (at least ones that I know) are shooters, retired/active law enforcement or experienced armed security officers. Pay them a decent wage and let the police do their job by responding for an arrest without a constant police presence. Sounds like money saved to me.

    If I recall, it was an off duty police officer in Salt Lake City with a concealed handgun that stopped the shooter.

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  • Minneapolis Security
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    Maybe theses mall management companies will finally be sued, and forced to arm the mall security officers.

    Armed, professionally trained officers, onsite could have stopped or limited the carnage.

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  • ddog
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    FlashlightCop, get your body armor!!

    I saw that and was thinking there is no better place for easy marks and mass destruction. Of course there is also lots of pretty women in a mall too.

    Concealed Body armor seems appropriate. Just tell your employer how much his workers comp may go up otherwise ($$,$$$).

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  • Gunman Kills Eight, Then Kills Himself, at Omaha Shopping Mall

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315342,00.html

    OMAHA, Neb. — BREAKING NEWS: A man with a rifle opened fire at a busy Omaha shopping mall Wednesday, killing eight people before taking his own life, police said. Five others were wounded, two critically.

    Shoppers and employees ran screaming through the mall and barricaded themselves in dressing rooms after hearing gunfire. The gunman was found dead on the third floor of the Von Maur department store.

    Click here to watch live video at the scene at KETV.com

    Click here for photos.

    A suspect was taken into custody, but his role in the shooting was not clear. An employee at the Von Maur department store, where the shooting took place, reportedly sustained a self-inflicted wound.

    Two gunshot victims who were treated at Creighton Medical Center died from their wounds, FOX News confirmed, and a third victim being treated there remained in critical condition.

    No additional information was available on the other fatalities.

    Andrea McMaster, a spokeswoman for the University of Nebraska Medical Center, told FOX News that three shooting victims were being treated there: a 61-year-old man shot in the chest, a 34-year-old man shot in the arm, and a 55-year-old man with a cut to his face. The 61-year-old man was in critical condition and undergoing surgery.

    FOX News confirmed that one victim was shot in the head and killed.

    A witness, Todd Trimpe, told FOX News that he saw police apprehend a man, dressed in camouflage, who was hiding under a bus-stop bench outside the mall. Trimpe said the man "stood out like a sore thumb." He did not know what was happening inside the mall when he witnessed the arrest.

    Police had put the Westroads Mall, Omaha's largest shopping mall, on lockdown while it searched for the gunman.

    One of the victims was reportedly an elderly man found near an escalator inside Von Maur department store, one of the mall's anchor tenents.

    Witnesses described hearing "dozens and dozens" of shots being fired, with one witness saying she heard more than 30 shots.

    A woman who answered the phone at an Old Navy store said 20 to 30 customers were huddled with employees in a back storeroom.

    "All we know was people were running and screaming down the hallway by Von Maur saying there was a shooting, and then they locked us down," said the woman, who said her name was Heidi.

    Keith Fidler, an employee at Von Maur, said he heard the burst of gunfire, followed by dozens of shots. Fidler said he huddled in the corner of the men's clothing department with about a dozen other employees until police yelled to get out of the store.

    Fidler said he did not see the shooting, but saw a person lying by the elevator as he was leaving the store.

    President Bush was in town Wednesday for a fundraiser in Omaha, but left about an hour before the shooting.

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