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  • Hand cuff disscusion.

    What style of handcuffs do you prefer? Why?
    (linked, hinged, nickel, black, zip ties, thumb cuffs)

    What brand? How long have you had them?
    (ASP, S&W, Peerless, Hitachi, generic...)

    How many do you carry? Is it worth the weight?

    What type of holder do you use? And at what position on your belt?
    (single case, double case, open case, bikini case, hanging, no case)

    What maintenance do you do?
    21
    Never - against policy
    9.52%
    2
    Maybe once
    19.05%
    4
    1-2
    14.29%
    3
    3-4
    19.05%
    4
    5-6
    4.76%
    1
    >6
    33.33%
    7
    Police Officer

    Experience: Bouncer, EMT, Theme Park Security, Money Transport, Armed Guard

  • #2
    I still have my BOS cuffs from the early 90's - never used them once for duty just for training. I have tried the peerless (hinged) cuffs but they need to be placed on 100% correctly and have no margin for error. I have had to many years knowing how to hold someone without them resisting to ever bother with cuffs and SL's are not permitted to be handcuffed here in Australia.
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    • #3
      OK I'll start. This is what I have used for the past two years, but I'm looking for a change

      Hinged Cuffs nickle plated

      Generic Galls brand - $15 each

      I carry 2. I think its too heavy

      I used to have two cases, now I use a double case.

      Just a little gun oil once of twice a year.
      Police Officer

      Experience: Bouncer, EMT, Theme Park Security, Money Transport, Armed Guard

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      • #4
        Working alone I use them rarely. I do mainly O&R security. However a few times a year I stay after my shift & help overnight (eg Spring Break). I usually use them about once a year then. They are Peerless. Bought them in the late 1970's. Spray them with WD-40 once in a while. Since I work plainclothed it doesn't matter what type of cse, presently I have a full case. Sometimes no case at all, I just hang them on my belt. I'm left-handed & work unarmed so I wear them near my back on the left side.
        I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
          What style of handcuffs do you prefer? Why?
          (linked, hinged, nickel, black, zip ties, thumb cuffs)

          What brand? How long have you had them?
          (ASP, S&W, Peerless, Hitachi, generic...)

          How many do you carry? Is it worth the weight?

          What type of holder do you use? And at what position on your belt?
          (single case, double case, open case, bikini case, hanging, no case)

          What maintenance do you do?
          I carry hinge and chain cuffs. I use the chain on non cooperative subjects and hinged on cooperative usually.

          I carry 2 pairs of S&W and a pair of peerless. I think its worth the weight.

          I use a double case on my left hip and a single case (for the hinged cuffs) behind the right hip at about 5 o'clock position

          I clean them with soap and water and lubricate them with gun iol.
          "Get yourself a shovel cause your in deep Sh*t"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
            What style of handcuffs do you prefer? Why?
            (linked, hinged, nickel, black, zip ties, thumb cuffs)
            I prefer hinged, but by federal edict, carry chain.

            What brand? How long have you had them?
            (ASP, S&W, Peerless, Hitachi, generic...)
            Issued Peerless.

            How many do you carry? Is it worth the weight?
            One pair. Yes.

            What type of holder do you use? And at what position on your belt?
            (single case, double case, open case, bikini case, hanging, no case)
            Single case, 1930hrs on the belt.

            What maintenance do you do?
            I clean them about once a month, and lightly oil them with whatever oil I have for my Glock.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bigdog View Post
              I carry hinge and chain cuffs. I use the chain on non cooperative subjects and hinged on cooperative usually.
              Correct me if I'm wrong since I've never used hinged... but aren't they better for non-coops because once you get one on you can tweak their arm around for pain compliance
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              Experience: Bouncer, EMT, Theme Park Security, Money Transport, Armed Guard

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
                Correct me if I'm wrong since I've never used hinged... but aren't they better for non-coops because once you get one on you can tweak their arm around for pain compliance
                Having carried both chain and hinged, you have to be careful with hinged because the wrist can be damaged easier than hinged.

                You can "tweak" the cuff with both chained and hinged, it just depends on how you hold the cuffs. The hinged is "easier" since it doesn't rotate, but you have to be very careful, its an immovable object and you can crack a wrist that way. Even if you are careful, they can crack their own wrist, for you, resisting.

                I've carried anywhere from 1 to 4 cuffs. For plainclothes, I prefer flexible cuffs because they're lighter. Generally speaking, in plainclothes protection, are we really going to release anyone once they've done something stupid enough to warrant handcuffing? Let the cops cut em off, or if you are booking your own, the correctional staff.
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                • #9
                  There should have been an option on the poll for guards who carry cuffs and are allowed to detain people with them, but never have; I fall into that category. At the check cashing store where I work, it seems as if all the action requiring people to be detained happens when I'm not there. I suppose that my mere presence is a good thing, due to the fact that in 15 months, I have had only 3 incidents, and none involved me detaining anyone.

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                  • #10
                    I carry two sets of cuff. One pair is the ASP pair in black. And the second set is stainless Peerless.

                    Be Safe,

                    Hank
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                    • #11
                      I carry 2 pairs of Hiatts, both chain. I've been meaning to pick up a pair of hinged for a while, but just haven't gotten around to it yet.

                      Carry them each in a separate case (Bianchi Accumold, like all my gear) at about 1630 and 1930. I used to carry 'em in a double case up front, but the size/weight was just too out of proportion for my tastes. This way, I can still reach a pair with either hand when necessary.
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                      BANG, next thing you know Bob's your Uncle and this Sgt is seemingly out on his a$$.
                      Shoulda called in sick.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
                        Correct me if I'm wrong since I've never used hinged... but aren't they better for non-coops because once you get one on you can tweak their arm around for pain compliance
                        I can use either for pain compliance, but I normally don't use cuffs for pain compliance.
                        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
                          Correct me if I'm wrong since I've never used hinged... but aren't they better for non-coops because once you get one on you can tweak their arm around for pain compliance
                          Nathan is correct their is more risk of injury to the suspect with hinged cuffs when using hinged also if the grab on cuff they now have control over both where as with chain you may be able to control the other cuff so they wont be able to take them from you and use them as a weapon.
                          On a side note I read an article from California where a police officer successfully argued in court that handcuffs taken from an officer by a suspect would be considered an edged weapon. due to the teeth being able to be use to cut an officer.

                          Here's a link to the article http://s115337212.onlinehome.us/Lethal%20Weapon%201.pdf
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                          • #14
                            I carry a set of peerless chained, and a set of peerless hinged. I use those bikini cuff cases. I also carry a set of S&W leg irons and a transport belt in the vehicle. Also a set of oversized S&W handcuffs for oversized people.
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                            • #15
                              Two sets of S&W model 1 hinged cuffs.. Also a set of Trilock composite handcuffs, fit better on small wrists, kinda rare to.

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