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  • HomeInCalifornia
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    Congrats on your new Glock!

    I'm a Glocker myself and love that gun. One way to get a lot of reps for cheap is to buy the Advantage Arms conversion kit that allows you to shoot .22lr. This way you can get a lot of practice time since .22lr is a tenth the price of 9mm, and top off the session by shooting 9mms to get back to the normal recoil.

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  • ESI AGENT
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    While your waiting attend a good shooting school, Theirs some good schools out their and invest in yourself. Also know your equipment and laws regarding carry and use. Their is alot of responsibility and libility involed in security and more when your armed.
    First rule with a firearm: Consider all firearms loaded, People are killed with suspected unloaded firearms all the time.
    Four safeties: Muzzule control. Finger straight(keep the mouse out of the house) mechanical safety on if a single action weapon and weapon holster or slung. That being said remember our mission: "PREVENTION" Be safe.

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  • Dayanx
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    dry fire is the only option for me since I live in a city and the ranges won't let security practice draw/fire drills. They said "it might give the wrong people ideas" or some drek. I need to get a little trigger work done too since the darn thing breaks around 8-10 lbs. It's really hard to make any groups with it at any range. But at least its reliable.

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  • rentalcop
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    Congrats!!! Good choice of handgun too. Realize you have taken on an enormous responsibility, and you should treat it as such. Get a holster you are comfortable with and that is company approved. Someone already mentioned practice, practice, and practice, and they are right. Also PLEASE don't go into public places before or after work wearing your uniform and gun. I see alot of ppl do this and your really putting yourself ( and your company, company being the least important of the two ) at serious risk. Straight to work and home. Additionally, does your company supply body armor? And are you allowed a backup gun? Beyond that... congrats again.

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  • bpdblue
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    It ain't that easy..........

    In California you cannot have a weapon if you have not taken a gun handling / safety class (and then got the state permit for taking the class, but there are some exceptions, like a retired police officer), if you are a convicted felon, a drug addict, have been placed on a mental hold (and that mental hold has been upheld by a court), if you have been convicted of a violent misdemeanor, if there is a domestic violence restraining order against you, and for many other reasons.

    SO, anyone who thinks you can purchase a gun in California with no hassles no matter what, is wrong.

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  • Chucky
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    "Some states make it a criminal offense to purchase a handgun without a "permit to purchase" issued by the state itself."

    Ok that is where the problem was. Our state requires a permit contingent on a clean back ground Town, State and Federal background before purchase but it reads like EMT and Kingsman were saying that their states do not. So where in the process do they get background checked. The standard time for ours is 8 weeks. This time includes passing the full NRA course with half day on the range.
    If you can not get a good grouping you will continue until you do.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Chucky View Post
    Please bare with me on this one because I really want to understand as I read your post in some states anyone can go into a gun shop no matter what your history is and buy guns and ammo? Then leave the gun shop and kill his perceived foes. I can't seem to wrap my head around that concept if I'm understanding what you all are saying. Felons can't vote but can purchase deadly weapons in some states just by plunking some money down??? And if a felon can't own a gun how would anyone know he was a felon before selling him a gun without a back ground check?
    I'll try again.

    A Federally Mandated Background Check has nothing to do with a State Permit to Purchase a Firearm. All states require a background check for a handgun purchase, under federal law. Some states make it a criminal offense to purchase a handgun without a "permit to purchase" issued by the state itself.

    This has nothing to do with the Federally Mandated Background Check. So, no, you cannot plunk money down in a gun store and buy a gun without a background check.

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  • Chucky
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    Please bare with me on this one because I really want to understand as I read your post in some states anyone can go into a gun shop no matter what your history is and buy guns and ammo? Then leave the gun shop and kill his perceived foes. I can't seem to wrap my head around that concept if I'm understanding what you all are saying. Felons can't vote but can purchase deadly weapons in some states just by plunking some money down??? And if a felon can't own a gun how would anyone know he was a felon before selling him a gun without a back ground check?

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  • BoyInBlue
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    Originally posted by Chucky View Post
    I'm confused how are you able to purchase a hand gun without producing a valid permit? In our state you can't even buy ammo without a permit. Of course if you are a bad guy then you can buy anything without a permit.
    I live in California, which has stricter laws than other states. But basically anyone can buy a gun that is over 21 and not a felon. You must pass a background check and wait 10 days.

    The permit is to work Armed Security.

    Originally posted by Chucky View Post
    So can someone that was just released from the rubber room at the local funny farm walk into a gun shop and walk out fully armed?
    Actually yes. As long as the crazy person has not committed any crimes they can buy a gun. Your mental health is considered privileged and not included in a background check. This may soon change after the shooting at Virgina Tech, were the shooter had a mental health history but was still allowed to purchase a gun.

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  • HospitalPatrol
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    danny the company that first issued me a firearm only required that we had the ability to shoot the state course of fire, with no additional standards or training. I respect that practice because obviously you need some level to define as being proficient with firearms. However, it was my twenty-first birthday when I qualified and I had never shot a gun before. Seeing all those bullet holes sprayed all over the place the first time I shot made me feel uneasy about my personal abilities. Since then I have done a lot of training and practicing. Now my rounds go where I want them to go. This has given me a lot of pride and confidence that goes beyond simply having a gun strapped to my waist. It also helped me tremendously when I applied for another company which has much higher standards. They took all applicants to the range and wouldn't even talk to them about work unless they were former security, military, or LE who could shoot. So it did open the door to more $$$.

    I have found that dry fire is the best method of practice. You can Google it and find all kinds of dry fire exercises. You get all your indexing, sight alignment, and trigger pull down without anticipating the bullet leaving the weapon, which is what usually causes the kind of jerking around that will cause you to miss. Then you go to the range and shoot and see what you need to work on. I practice at close range because thats statistically where most gun fights occur. But you can gradually move the target out and hopefully start hitting it at 25 yards, which is my big weakness.

    Be safe.

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  • kingsman
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    The United States all have different rules.

    Here, you get a Premit to Purchase from the dealer, then take it in to the Police or Sheriff and have it checked and registered.

    If you want to carry it outside your home, you need a CPL (Concealed Pistol License). That takes a lot longer and costs much more.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by Chucky View Post
    So can someone that was just released from the rubber room at the local funny farm walk into a gun shop and walk out fully armed?
    The federal background check is not a permit. Permits to own/purchase a firearm are state (or county/city) inventions. The requirement to run a federal background check on someone does not require a "permit to purchase/own."

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  • Chucky
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    Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
    No permits necessary here. I can buy just about anything short of a rocket launcher. Class 3 firearms, full auto, are available if I want to apply for the tax stamp. I conceal carry in public and open carry in my home and on my property.
    So can someone that was just released from the rubber room at the local funny farm walk into a gun shop and walk out fully armed?

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  • EMTGuard
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    No permits necessary here. I can buy just about anything short of a rocket launcher. Class 3 firearms, full auto, are available if I want to apply for the tax stamp. I conceal carry in public and open carry in my home and on my property.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Remember: Off target = Off Trigger - On Target = On Trigger.

    A firearm requires you to have alot of respect for yourself and it is not something that we show family and friends at show and tell day. The Glock 19 is what I still have and it is a very simple firearm to operate.

    ALL FIREARMS ARE LOADED ........... even those of your trusted colleagues.

    I thought the USA was tough on getting permits before purchasing anyting ?
    Last edited by NRM_Oz; 11-28-2007, 01:37 AM.

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