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  • N. A. Corbier
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    The janitors are probably SEIU members, so how much are they making, and what kind of guarantees do they get? Does the union allow for background checks? Does it require them?

    Its things like that one has to remember, the janitors are probably making more than security.

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  • bpdblue
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    It has often upset me to the core that (often) the lowest paid workers (like security and janitors) often times have top administrative abilities, like having keys to areas in a building / complex that even some administrative employees do not have.

    Have you ever run into a situation where a company supervisor had to call for security, or a janitor, to come and open a door to a sensitive area of the business?

    How often do you hear of a janitors background being checked?

    At least, hopefully, the guard's background has been gone over. But still, if the guard, or janitor, is only making $8.00 to $9.00 per hour, working among others getting $30 to $50 per hour, the temptation for them to do something wrong, and the ability to do it (by having the company keys, ect), is probably a factor that needs to be considered. When you add that a person is an illegal, is working illegally, or has a criminal background, the temptation to do wrong is probably much greater than for the average, legal worker.

    I know that all businesses want to keep costs down, but they should remember that when it comes to employees that are often at the bottom end of the pay scale, even if it is a contract employee, and those employees are expected to handle company property (like keys to the company that give them access to highly sensitive, or other normally restrictive areas in the business), that the temptation to do something wrong is often there.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    I am going through pure hell right now trying renewe my 20 years of licenced experience and the ironic thing I was told - ummmmmmmm can someone assess you and I have kindly said ummmmmmmmm No because I am the top of the RM pyramid. I have seen some courses now go over $1,000 US which is for someone who is going to be on minimum wages for a few years as they are new to the country, etc. Even my assessment is now $200.00 but I was quoted $400.00 US and it would take me a week of my own time plus class time (unpaid of course).

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  • ESI AGENT
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    Here in L.A. it's no secret that we have a surplus of illegals and I have seen them working as guards and know of companies that go to the local home depot to find their new security statff. Their is always a business man willing to sell out an industry for a buck. These kind of people have and contiue to make us all look bad and prevent us from getting hire paying positions by destroying our image! It's up to us to project a professional image and educate the public about our field.

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  • Black Caesar
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    It is now.

    What is it?
    Ireland Is a Republic. Northern Ireland is seperate (partitioned) from the Irish Republic and is a "constituent country" of the United Kingdom.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by IrishCop View Post
    Probably a typo on your part but for the record, Northern Ireland is not a Republic.
    It is now.

    What is it?

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  • IrishCop
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
    ......Now, if the Republic of Northern Ireland..........
    Probably a typo on your part but for the record, Northern Ireland is not a Republic.

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  • integrator97
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    Originally posted by Minneapolis Security View Post
    Maybe you should think before posting trash like this. Canada goes un-touched because of your big brother to the south. How about a little respect?
    Hmmm. It could be more likely that the Canadians mind their own business quite a bit, politically speaking.

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  • NRM_Oz
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    Same as every time I have been in California and asked a waiter a question only to get a blank look and then smile when I point to the coffee cup ?

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  • SecTrainer
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    Originally posted by Miami-Dade View Post
    At least I can say there are no illegals working in Miami in the security or in any other business.
    Right you are - nary a one!

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  • Miami-Dade
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    Originally posted by IrishCop View Post
    So much for the private security industry in the United Kingdom.

    Click Here For News Report

    Could this happen in your part of the world?
    At least I can say there are no illegals working in Miami in the security or in any other business.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by bpdblue View Post
    I agree whole heartedly with SecTrainer's post on this subject. In fact almost all the posts are extremely insightful into this issue. (EXCEPT the Timothy Mcveigh post, asking if that makes the USA a terrorist state. I'm sure the poster will clarify they were just kidding, SOON.)
    There was the sarcastic happy face in the post.

    I made the statement because it reminded me of what the US & Canada did to Japanese Americans & Canadians during the 2nd World War. They were forbidden to work & were forced into camps bacause of their heritage. This mind set is starting to be taken towards Islamic people here in North America. It is wrong - Not all Islamic people (not even a small percentage) are terrorists.
    Last edited by HotelSecurity; 11-13-2007, 07:07 PM.

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  • bpdblue
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    I agree whole heartedly with SecTrainer's post on this subject. In fact almost all the posts are extremely insightful into this issue. (EXCEPT the Timothy Mcveigh post, asking if that makes the USA a terrorist state. I'm sure the poster will clarify they were just kidding, SOON.)

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    A "terrorist country" is a country that, through official channels, supports terrorism. Usually by directly aiding and arming terrorist forces, but sometimes through the refusal to prosecute known terrorists.

    It has nothing to do with "how much o' tham terrerists ya got" in the country. If that was the measure, than Ireland and Northern Ireland would be "terrerist countries," as well as several European nations such as Spain, etc.

    Now, if the Republic of Northern Ireland were actively supporting and harboring the PIRA, then yeah. They'd be a "terrorist country."

    (See how I use Terrerist for the popular ill-informed definition.)

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  • Minneapolis Security
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    Timothy McVey was a terrorist. Does that make the US a "terrorist country"?
    Maybe you should think before posting trash like this. Canada goes un-touched because of your big brother to the south. How about a little respect?

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