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  • hemi444
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    I though about applying at TMI a few years back until I heard about the contract company having some problems that were addressed by a member in congress.

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  • Brent311
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    Haha yeah, I like the swiss cheese joke! A terrorist organization would probably look at them, think it was a joke, and believe the power plant was a decoy fake! Ha, maybe that's the plan!

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  • ACP01
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Forget terrorists. Your working with people who don't care, and have fully automatic weapons.
    Yep, full auto rock and roll along with spray and pray. These guys would probably shoot at anything irregardless whose side you are on.

    Badguys:"Don't waste the ammo, just let them kill each other."

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  • Mr. Security
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Forget terrorists. Your working with people who don't care, and have fully automatic weapons.
    Good point. Oops. Sorry about that brent311. Hey guys. Doesn't he look like swiss cheese!

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Forget terrorists. Your working with people who don't care, and have fully automatic weapons.

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  • Mr. Security
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    Originally posted by Brent311
    I have seen some of the officers at Grand Gulf(MS), and they do not look like ex-armed forces at all. Maybe ex-boy scouts! Most wore polo shirts along with BDU's, and many of them were half untucked and very sloppy looking. I may have a chance then. I wear either a button up with BDU's or a Security polo. I wear shirt keepers to keep my shirt neatly tucked in, and sometimes even wear a tie. I know it is not necessary in security but I like to go the extra mile.
    The last thing you need is to work with a bunch of s/o's who don't care. You won't fit-in, will end-up frustrated (believe me, I have worked for WBS and it is very frustrating ), and will be courting death at a nuclear facility, which is high on any terrorist's list.

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  • Taser
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    Originally posted by Brent311
    I have seen some of the officers at Grand Gulf(MS), and they do not look like ex-armed forces at all. Maybe ex-boy scouts! Most wore polo shirts along with BDU's, and many of them were half untucked and very sloppy looking. I may have a chance then. I wear either a button up with BDU's or a Security polo. I wear shirt keepers to keep my shirt neatly tucked in, and sometimes even wear a tie. I know it is not necessary in security but I like to go the extra mile.
    You wear a tie when you don't have to? Wow...sure you don't need your head examined?

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  • Brent311
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    I have seen some of the officers at Grand Gulf(MS), and they do not look like ex-armed forces at all. Maybe ex-boy scouts! Most wore polo shirts along with BDU's, and many of them were half untucked and very sloppy looking. I may have a chance then. I wear either a button up with BDU's or a Security polo. I wear shirt keepers to keep my shirt neatly tucked in, and sometimes even wear a tie. I know it is not necessary in security but I like to go the extra mile.

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  • ff000525
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    Usually to work for Wackenhut's Nuc. Security you have to have pretty good qualifications. A lot of ex-AF Security Forces, Army and Marine Infantry ect. do that when they get out of the service. I knew a few guys who's sole job was to "escort" spent fuel rods ect, to disposal sites. That whole crew was pretty "squared away". I've also seen pictures of Nuc. guards who currently work for the company I work for and they didn't look all that prepared for situations. IE uniforms sloppy, rifles causally slung across thier backs...ect. To me the appearance is everything, and is usually the first way to deescalate or prevent a situation. I know a Plant is opening up by me soon (my company has the contract), and if things don't work out, I'll probably try to get an account transfer there.

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  • Mr. Security
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    Originally posted by Bill Warnock
    Those personnel who work in hazardious areas are provided dosimeters. When I was a physical security specialist/inspector for the Naval Sea Systems Command and inspected nuclear submarines, I was given a dosimeter and before I left the yard is was read.
    I would hazard a guess, NRC would be all over that one as would the contracted company.
    Enjoy the day,
    Bill
    That's what I thought. I was surprised when I read the complaint. I can't go into specifics due to privacy concerns. I'll PM you.

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  • Bill Warnock
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    Originally posted by Mr. Security
    Some officers have complained that they are required to go into areas that they shoudn't due to the risk of radiation exposure. I would check on that to. Otherwise, you might get a "glowing" performance review if you get my drift.
    Those personnel who work in hazardious areas are provided dosimeters. When I was a physical security specialist/inspector for the Naval Sea Systems Command and inspected nuclear submarines, I was given a dosimeter and before I left the yard is was read.
    I would hazard a guess, NRC would be all over that one as would the contracted company.
    Enjoy the day,
    Bill

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  • Mr. Security
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    Radiation exposure.

    Some officers have complained that they are required to go into areas that they shoudn't due to the risk of radiation exposure. I would check on that to. Otherwise, you might get a "glowing" performance review if you get my drift.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    That's the thing. I've read reports from NRC on the failure of nuclear security forces (For some reason, the public police think they can do a better job. I don't know why, they're not a military unit either). I've also read accounts as described above.

    I think alot of it depends on what company has the contract, what the state allows (There were reports of SFI at Crystal River carrying .38 revolvers because that's what security guards in Florida carry,) and what the training budget allows.

    As I said before, its a crap shoot. If Wackenhut hires you for Wackenhut Government Services (It is not Wackenhut Security that patrols NRC sites, usually), then its up to the installation command staff and training staff to ensure your properly trained. Hopefully, they do their job.

    If they don't, and you are clueless warm body with an M16, then its time to find another job, but hell, you get to list "nuclear plant security guard" on your resume.

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  • Charger
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    ^ Agreed... I'll vouch for everything Taser just said, as I live in the area.. (About 10 miles from Trojan, actually.. lol)

    Currently the contract belongs to a PNW-local company called Metro Watch... Personally, I wouldn't work for them, due to some policies they have that I don't agree with, but overall they're by far one of the better companies I've come across in my experience... And only the cream of the crop gets to do the Trojan detail...

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  • Taser
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    I knew a guy who worked for Trojan Nuclear Power Plant which was decommissioned several years ago but still employs on-site security. I can tell you quite simply that they don't **** around.

    These guys walk around carrying AR-15s and if you cross the invisible line or, God help you, jump over a fence, there's a very good chance you're going home with a dozen .223 holes in your body.

    He worked there prior to 9/11 and also right after. The FBI came and briefed them and basically told them, if anyone gets over that fence, you shoot to kill and ask questions later. He had plenty of confrontations with people including one where he came up on some people who were fishing on the Columbia River right next to the power plant. He went up to them and told them to get the **** off the property and one of them got beligerent. The entire time the supervisor was yelling at him on the radio, "Control the situation! Neutralize the threat!" He ended up cracking the guy in the face with the butt of his rifle, broke his nose. County deputies came out and hauled the perp off to jail.

    There was another incident where a vehicle fleeing the police was heading right for the gate of the plant at a high rate of speed. He had his rifle zeroed in on this car and at the last minute the car swerved the other direction. He said he got pretty close to shooting.

    They do a lot of simulations too. Military personnel will do mock attacks against the plant. They'll come flying in on zip lines or paradrop in and systematically go through and "kill" the guards.

    Anyway, it's a pretty serious business, at least it was at this particular plant.

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