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    A 61-year-old woman who was repeatedly punched in the face during a robbery in a store parking lot in Jackson has filed a lawsuit against the store, the store's security company and the two suspects in the assault.
    Linda Knox is seeking $8.3 million in compensatory and punitive damages in the June 4 attack.
    In the suit filed Tuesday in Hinds County, Knox said she has permanently lost sight in her left eye and that no one from the store, or security came to her aid as she was being beaten.
    Isaiah Robertson and Lionel Kyles are suspected of attacking and robbing Knox and were arrested on June 25
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    This is what happens when observe and report companies take contracts with companies who have public access. Who is at fault here, the security company or the client?
    Murphy was an optomist.

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    Originally posted by jeff194307 View Post
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    This is what happens when observe and report companies take contracts with companies who have public access. Who is at fault here, the security company or the client?
    It looks as though there is plently of blame and fault to go araound. It's a damned shame.
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    • #3
      Need a lot more info to make any judgements about what went on there.

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      • #4
        Pffft...of course it's the old lady's fault. She needs to brush up on her verbal judo skillz. jk

        Honestly, I've already seen one beating I couldn't do anything about at the time and it still haunts me. Though I don't hold them completely at fault since there's probably a lot more info on this we don't know about, I say the observe & report guys should have at least done something, anything to intervene.
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        • #5
          Article link please.
          "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
          "The Curve" 1998

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          • #6
            BHR, I don't have a link, I recieved just the text in an e-mail from my branch office.
            Murphy was an optomist.

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            • #7
              Nothing on Google news wire...this incident must have been kept quiet. It will only be news if she is awarded the 8.3 million. Damn shame.
              Craig

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jeff194307 View Post
                This is what happens when observe and report companies take contracts with companies who have public access. Who is at fault here, the security company or the client?
                Sorry no straight cut answer to this scenario...

                Operationally - the client was too tight fisted to contract pro-active security personnel

                Morally - the staff & store security stood by whilst the assault took place

                Still in all reality an SO that potentially intervened would've been publicly 'patted-on-the-back' whilst quietly made to seek employment elsewhere for contravening the site's SOP
                Last edited by Maelstrom; 10-19-2007, 10:32 PM.
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                • #9
                  I would like to see the original context of this article, to send to my bosses to help back some of my complaints and requests.
                  "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
                  "The Curve" 1998

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                  • #10
                    http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...373/1001/RSS01

                    Originally posted by Article in the above link
                    Woman files suit in armed robbery

                    Store, security firm, two suspects in assault are among the named

                    By Nicklaus Lovelady
                    [email protected]


                    A 61-year-old woman who was repeatedly punched in the face during a robbery in a Kroger parking lot in Jackson has filed a lawsuit against the store, the store's security company and the two suspects in the assault.

                    Linda Knox is seeking $8.3 million in compensatory and punitive damages in the June 4 attack.

                    In the suit filed Tuesday in Hinds County, Knox said she has permanently lost sight in her left eye and that no one from Kroger or Securitas Security Services USA came to her aid as she was being beaten.

                    Isaiah Robertson and Lionel Kyles are suspected of attacking and robbing Knox and were arrested on June 25.

                    Both suspects, along with Securitas, The Kroger Co., Securitas employee Kendra Jackson, the Kroger Limited Partnership, T&M Jackson Development LLC and 10 unnamed defendants were named in the suit.

                    Neither Kroger nor Securitas were available for comment.

                    "I don't think (Securitas or Kroger) did anything or took responsibility for keeping Ms. Knox and others safe," said Robert Wilkins, Knox's attorney. "They should have realized someone was getting beat in their parking lot and stopped it."

                    In the suit, Knox alleges that Securitas and Kroger failed to adequately train, screen and supervise the security guards at the store at 4910 I-55 North and the premises surrounding the store.

                    On the day of the attack, Knox said a white car pulled up to her as she was loading groceries into her vehicle.

                    Two people inside the white car threatened her, and one got out and began punching her in the face and body while grabbing at her purse.

                    "Ms. Knox was screaming during the attack, but the (defendants) did not come to her aid," the lawsuit said.

                    Eventually, the suspect overpowered Knox and was able to make off with her purse.

                    Following the attack, Knox spent two weeks in the hospital and accumulated more than $100,000 in medical expenses, Wilkins said.

                    Robertson and Kyles were later arrested and charged with aggravated assault and strong-armed robbery.

                    The two are suspected of attacking and robbing at least three other women during May and June.

                    Both are being held in the Hinds County Detention Center in Raymond without bond.

                    Jackson Police Department Detective Reginald Cooper said the next grand jury is scheduled to hear evidence in the case.

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                    • #11
                      So, if the guard told the client, would that be considered "coming to her aid?" Since that's generally what the guard is supposed to do, and the client calls the police.

                      Even "the police" will say: Don't become involved, call 911.
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                      • #12
                        I thought this story sounded familiar.

                        We discussed it in this post a while ago, same story.

                        Saves me from having to retype that response lol.
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                        • #13
                          We still dont' know, did the security even see what was going on? My guess would be they had one guard for both inside and outside, unarmed. The incident probably took only seconds.

                          I wonder how far we expect companies to go. Hire a team of armed guards, raise prices, scare customers off, go out of business. Thats extreme but just how do you decide how much security is enough?

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                          • #14
                            This is an interesting twist on more or less the same problem. Up until 2 months ago my relief was a 23 year full time cop. When he took the PD oath he understood that from that time on he is a cop 24/7 irregardless of anything else he may be doing and has to act on any crime he was aware of. When he joined our company PT we all were told that under no circumstances do we leave the post under penalty of law.(Armed with federal implications) Here’s the worm. One night about ½ hour after I left a lady came in and ran to him stating that she is the victim of domestic violence and thinks that the perp is following her. He told her to go to the ladies room and stay in there until the local PD arrived.

                            The officer informed the asst mgr and told him to call 911. The asst felt that he needed to run it past the full mgr.(The one that does not like armed guards in her building but has no choice) She told the asst mgr that she would handle it and she did nothing. The victim came out of the ladies room and left the building after waiting 10 mins. The cop went to the mgr ad in no uncertain terms gave her the what for and how if anything happened to the victim that it would be on her head and he will testify in court against her. She like the [email protected]$%h she is called our company and told them she will not permit anyone to talk to her that way and does not want him in the building anymore. He was replaced the next day for doing the right thing.
                            THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
                            THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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                            • #15
                              Every company should have a policy to intervene if possible in the event of bodily harm. Period.
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