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    Could anyone post a link of a Florida (or National) law pertaining to Security Officers must wear a valid dated Security Company photo ID on right shoulder (?) while in uniform.

    I was wondering what the fine for the Security Company and SO was for such an offense.


    THANKS!!

  • #2
    Florida does not require you to wear a company ID on your right shoulder. It requires you to have a company ID and your FL Licenses on you but thats it. Mine stay in my wallet.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by gcmc security part 2 View Post
      Florida does not require you to wear a company ID on your right shoulder. It requires you to have a company ID and your FL Licenses on you but thats it. Mine stay in my wallet.
      Section493.6305(1)F.S.
      e. Identification Card-Every agency must furnish to it's partners, principle corporate officers, and ALL LICENSED employees, an identification card with the name and licence number of the holder of the card and the name and number of the agency. The identification card must be signed by the individual licensee and a representitive of the agency. The identification card must be in the possession of the licensee while on duty.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the info and FL law number to start googling. For the Company, its a $50 to $150 fine per employee for the lack of Security Company ID. Maybe the same fine for the employee as well, but that's only speculation since I had heard earlier that there's a fine for both the Company and Employee per incident. I'll never forget mine for the chance of getting fined $150 for me AND my Company.

        Thanks Again!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gcmc security part 2 View Post
          Florida does not require you to wear a company ID on your right shoulder. It requires you to have a company ID and your FL Licenses on you but thats it. Mine stay in my wallet.
          I too, carry my Agency ID and "D" and "G" licenses in my wallet. Right next to my Driver's License.
          Last edited by Hank1; 10-18-2007, 07:19 PM.
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          • #6
            In Australia, every person engaged in Security activities must have their licence visible and available for inspection upon request by anyone who may wish to ask (including employers and LE). Bouncers are permitted to wear a security ID with the company name and a large number provided they have their security licence with them.

            LP staff must produce a valid licence / company ID to identify themselves as company employees or agents. No licence = no work.

            No licence and you are caught - goodbye career and hello street sweeping job.

            No licence, and employed by a company with a master licence - goodbye business and hello $100k US (based on memory) fine plus new job street sweeping with your mate.
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            • #7
              On person does not mean "on right shoulder." That is the kind of silly urban legend that security companies who don't want to argue with guards will start to get them to obey company policy.

              There are no regulations on the national level for general contract security personnel, only specific regulations for ports of entry, etc. i.e. anything they can hit up with the commerce clause.

              A few other "Florida Laws" I've heard:

              - Its illegal for a Class D security guard to wear anything on their belt unless they have a Class G license.

              - Its illegal for a Class D security guard to wear {Baton/OC/Flashlight/Handcuffs/You Name It} unless they have a class G license.

              - Its illegal to possess a baton unless you're certified.

              - Its illegal to wear ammunition unless you have a Class G license.

              - Its illegal to wear a rain coat without your badge on it. (Untrue, the rain gear must have a patch or insignia, not a badge.)

              - Supervisors may be armed anywhere under Florida Law. (Untrue, it must be part of a supervisor's assigned duties to be armed, and each unarmed post must allow the supervisor to be armed contractually under FSS 493.6118)

              - Only Class G licensees may make arrests. (Seriously!)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                On person does not mean "on right shoulder." That is the kind of silly urban legend that security companies who don't want to argue with guards will start to get them to obey company policy.

                There are no regulations on the national level for general contract security personnel, only specific regulations for ports of entry, etc. i.e. anything they can hit up with the commerce clause.

                A few other "Florida Laws" I've heard:

                - Its illegal for a Class D security officer to wear anything on their belt unless they have a Class G license.

                - Its illegal for a Class D security officer to wear {Baton/OC/Flashlight/Handcuffs/You Name It} unless they have a class G license.

                - Its illegal to possess a baton unless you're certified.

                - Its illegal to wear ammunition unless you have a Class G license.

                - Its illegal to wear a rain coat without your badge on it. (Untrue, the rain gear must have a patch or insignia, not a badge.)

                - Supervisors may be armed anywhere under Florida Law. (Untrue, it must be part of a supervisor's assigned duties to be armed, and each unarmed post must allow the supervisor to be armed contractually under FSS 493.6118)

                - Only Class G licensees may make arrests. (Seriously!)
                I have one to add to untrue "Florida Laws" A Class D security officer may not purchase a baton without a Class G license.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                  On person does not mean "on right shoulder." That is the kind of silly urban legend that security companies who don't want to argue with guards will start to get them to obey company policy.

                  There are no regulations on the national level for general contract security personnel, only specific regulations for ports of entry, etc. i.e. anything they can hit up with the commerce clause.

                  A few other "Florida Laws" I've heard:

                  - Its illegal for a Class D security guard to wear anything on their belt unless they have a Class G license.

                  - Its illegal for a Class D security guard to wear {Baton/OC/Flashlight/Handcuffs/You Name It} unless they have a class G license.

                  - Its illegal to possess a baton unless you're certified.

                  - Its illegal to wear ammunition unless you have a Class G license.

                  - Its illegal to wear a rain coat without your badge on it. (Untrue, the rain gear must have a patch or insignia, not a badge.)

                  - Supervisors may be armed anywhere under Florida Law. (Untrue, it must be part of a supervisor's assigned duties to be armed, and each unarmed post must allow the supervisor to be armed contractually under FSS 493.6118)

                  - Only Class G licensees may make arrests. (Seriously!)
                  LOL! I have heard all of those in the past 10 years. It is laughable.
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                  • #10
                    The sad part is that most guards believe this crap. They should take some of there time and get to know the law for themselves. My motto is "It's not true unless you have it in writting."

                    The first thing I did after I took the first 24 hrs of "D" license training was to completely read all of chapter 493 and other laws pertaining to Security. I try to refresh on it approx every 3 months.

                    Link to 493: Florida Statues
                    Craig

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NRM_Oz View Post
                      In Australia, every person engaged in Security activities must have their licence visible and available for inspection upon request by anyone who may wish to ask (including employers and LE). Bouncers are permitted to wear a security ID with the company name and a large number provided they have their security licence with them.

                      LP staff must produce a valid licence / company ID to identify themselves as company employees or agents. No licence = no work.

                      No licence and you are caught - goodbye career and hello street sweeping job.

                      No licence, and employed by a company with a master licence - goodbye business and hello $100k US (based on memory) fine plus new job street sweeping with your mate.
                      Am I reading this wrong? You have to have your lic basically pinned to your uniform??? Or just have it on you (in a wallet or shirt pocket or what not)?
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                      • #12
                        Law requies you have agency ID here, that can be a custom metal badge or picture id or business card with name and agency on it, the company i work for is the ONLY company i know that issues hard plastic photos IDs where are to were are ID by company policy so that is is above the waist and visible most guards wear it on the right side attached to the lapel, or shirt pocket, mine stays on the shirt pocket below name plate.


                        (4) Each armed and unarmed private security officer wearing a regular uniform
                        shall display on the outermost garment of the uniform in a style, shape, design and type
                        which is clearly visible by a reasonable person under normal conditions identification
                        which contains:
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                        (a) the name or logo of the contract security company under whom the armed or
                        unarmed private security officer is employed; and
                        (b) the word "Security", "Contract Security", or "Security Officer".
                        Last edited by UtahProtectionForce; 10-19-2007, 04:47 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bigdog View Post
                          I have one to add to untrue "Florida Laws" A Class D security officer may not purchase a baton without a Class G license.
                          That is made of awesome sauce.
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                          "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                          • #14
                            To document with links correctly:

                            Here is the Florida Security Law, Chapter 493 disciplinary guideline PENALTIES ($$,$$$).

                            http://www.flrules.org/gateway/readF...e=5N-1.113.doc


                            The first section (or first page) for SO Companies (section (f)) is a fine of $50 to $150 for not having
                            a VALID dated Security Company ID with Picture per EACH employee.
                            The second section (or 4th page) for SO's themselves (section (r)) is also a fine of $50 to $150
                            for the same offense.

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