company policy you must carry two extra mags, because "knock on wood" if you ever get involved in a shoot out, you will more then likely miss a few rounds with the accelerated aderline levels, and situational confrontion. bot matter how much you would like to believe that you would be able to place 100% rounds center mass, it will not happen in true combat situation, where you have to rapid fire, rather slow fire at targets...
Hear hear. I'll agree with that 100%. When I went through law enforcement training in the military, we trained with both 38 revolvers and 45 auto's. We also did speed training "at the whistle, draw, 4 shots in 6 seconds" or "draw, 2 shots, reload, 2 more in 8 seconds" and things like that. We used 4 stationary distances for both stationary and on the move scenarios. At least it got you to aim & shoot fast.
Nowadays on the job I carry at least 2 feet for my Weller (soldering gun), and about a hundred 1 &1/8" rounds for my screw gun.
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13+1 in the glock 22 and three pouches with 2 15 round magazine in each. My model is you can never have to much ammo when the shiit hits the fan.
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You poor deluded saps, lugging around all that ammo. What if you ever fell into a swimming pool?
All you have to do is get yourself one of them Hollywood Mags that never run out, and you're good to go.
Trainer I'm glad you said it although I was surely thinking on those lines.The last big shootout which is approx I/2 of 1% 7 pd officers put 100 rounds into a car with a bad guy in it. There are so many different types of security post out there that maybe some folks feel the need to carry all the extra weight around.
Most S/Os are observe and report even some armed post. My post is 1 order only meet deadly force with deadly force. I do carry pepper and cuffs mostly for show. Wish I could say more but if I could you all would understand that arrest or apprehension are not an option. More like duck and fire. As in the military, agility is as important as fire power. I don't need all that extra weight to slow me down in a fire fight something the odds say are very unlikely to happen.
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All you have to do is get yourself one of them Hollywood Mags that never run out, and you're good to go.
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Where can I get one of those? A catalog or website? LOL!
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You poor deluded saps, lugging around all that ammo. What if you ever fell into a swimming pool?
I would rather be the sap with the ammo than the sap that falls in a pool. Ever heard of coordination? Makes it real easy to avoid falling in a pool. Also, ammo doesn't weigh that much, unless you are armed with a .50 boat tail or something.
Trainer I'm glad you said it although I was surely thinking on those lines.The last big shootout which is approx I/2 of 1% 7 pd officers put 100 rounds into a car with a bad guy in it. There are so many different types of security post out there that maybe some folks feel the need to carry all the extra weight around.
Most S/Os are observe and report even some armed post. My post is 1 order only meet deadly force with deadly force. I do carry pepper and cuffs mostly for show. Wish I could say more but if I could you all would understand that arrest or apprehension are not an option. More like duck and fire. As in the military, agility is as important as fire power. I don't need all that extra weight to slow me down in a fire fight something the odds say are very unlikely to happen.
A few years back in an area north of Pensacola several LE officers got into a shoot out with a bad guy. Somehow the count was approximately 400 rounds expended. Bad guy scored one hit, good guys scored two hits. And they were 'all' standing still during the contest. Yep. The more rounds, the more to waste.
It's not so much that you will need to reload. I was trained when using an automatic you are more likely to have a magazine failure than to have to reload. Let's just say you do have to use your gun and you do have to fire several rounds. If your magazine fails you have a fresh good mag you can swap to hopefully continue the fight. You may say that if my mags are in good shape this will not happen. Well sometimes mags just fail regardless of how new or how dependable they may have been before.
That's why I carry my S&W Model 28 revolver 99% of the time. I bought the gun new in 1982, and it has never failed to fire when I pulled the trigger. No jams, no stove pipes, no clearing drills. Just pull the trigger, and BANG!. Every time.
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