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In ma, if i flip on my over heads (yellow and green) and the person stops thats their issue. you dont have to stop for yellows and greens, how ever if you are doing this you better have a good reason such as "Excause me ma'am, you just smashed into my patrol cars bumper." <--- True Story.
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Reminds me of the Driving Permit I got from a local police station in Thailand. It was a high risk area and I got a blank permit for $5.00 US that legally was a licence to drive back in Australia. I got pulled up coming home from the airport in Sydney for an RBT and when I produced this licence to drive, I was waved on (though I had a full licence for home).
I can tell you now that most people who saw red and blue lights in the middle of the night and could not identify the vehicle as a LEO vehicle would be on the phone calling your 911 immediately. I know it is something I would be doing and I would be trying to get my buttocks to a cop-shop.
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We make contacts and stops in our community. Some examples are, neighbor disputes, juvenile curfew, not wearing a bicycle, or skateboard helmet, speeding, suspicous behavior, etc.
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Originally posted by BadBoynMD View PostDon't quote me 100%, but I think you have to have a letter from the client, written to SLED as to why you need red and blues. I suppose they are looking for one of your contractual agreements being running traffic.
At that time, the security officer (as a state traffic law enforcement officer), is authorized to enforce state law on the property as it pertains to the traffic code.
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Originally posted by jeff194307 View PostExcuse me but I feel this way about this discussion. If a security officer wants to do traffic stops, then he should quit security, and complete the required process to become a peace officer.
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Originally posted by Hank1 View PostJeff~
Throughout the Country, Private Officers are doing these types of things more and more. Hang on sir! Thngs will change.
Be Safe,
Hank
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Originally posted by BadBoynMD View PostDon't quote me 100%, but I think you have to have a letter from the client, written to SLED as to why you need red and blues. I suppose they are looking for one of your contractual agreements being running traffic.
All it takes is the client to request it to SLED, from what I understand it's not that difficult to obtain. One of my officers worked for a company up there for years and they had a few clients that had it.
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Originally posted by gcmc security part 2 View PostOops let me clarify, SOs in SC have all the authority of a Deputy Sheriff by statute, while on duty and on the property they are responsible for. So if you are driving in a neighborhood (gated or not), mall, hospital, etc, yes they can legally stop you by using red and blue lights, (maybe it's just blue have to double check) and write you a state uniform citation. Same exact ticket that a LEO will write you.
The sad part is that in SC the state requires 4 hours of training for an unarmed officer and an additional 4 hours for an armed officer.
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Originally posted by Mr. Security View PostBear with me, but are you saying that I could be driving on a public road in SC and a s/o could legally stop me for a moving violation?
The sad part is that in SC the state requires 4 hours of training for an unarmed officer and an additional 4 hours for an armed officer.
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Originally posted by gcmc security part 2 View PostThen don't do security in places like SC, (where security officers have the same statutory power as a deputy sheriff to include traffic stops) or many gated communities throughout the country. (one here does it, they actually run radar and will issue HOA tickets. Don't pay lose your driving privileges on their property.)
There is a time and place for Security to do traffic stops. It's beginning to happen more and more, Welcome to the 21st century.
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Originally posted by jeff194307 View PostExcuse me but I feel this way about this discussion. If a security officer wants to do traffic stops, then he should quit security, and complete the required process to become a peace officer.
Throughout the Country, Private Officers are doing these types of things more and more. Hang on sir! Thngs will change.
Be Safe,
Hank
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Originally posted by jeff194307 View PostExcuse me but I feel this way about this discussion. If a security officer wants to do traffic stops, then he should quit security, and complete the required process to become a peace officer.
There is a time and place for Security to do traffic stops. It's beginning to happen more and more, Welcome to the 21st century.
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Excuse me but I feel this way about this discussion. If a security officer wants to do traffic stops, then he should quit security, and complete the required process to become a peace officer.
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I am going to default everything I have just said to this position:
Don't ever pull anyone over outside your legal area of responsibility.
1. Personal safety
2. The Law
3. Personal civil liability
4. Post Orders
There's the prioritized litmus test for any action that any S/O is uncertain of.
And NEVER make public (like posting on a public forum) any action you do that others may consider uncertain, and which may not pass the above litmus test of other security officers, security management, or owners of security companies.
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