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    Our college does not allow door to door sales, niether does our comunity. On 10-9-07 I recieved a call from one of our dorm managers that two people were trying to sell magazines on campus. I located the two, got thier ID's and told them to leave campus and never return for the purpose of sales. For all the campus security folk out there, what are your policies and reactions to this type of behavior?
    Murphy was an optomist.

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    I am not campus security anymore but work in a mall. Our policy is that you do not leave ad's on peoples cars or scattered about the mall and you can not hand them out as you are walking around (inside or outside). If you are caught, I will typically advise you of the policy and then kick you out and walk you off property (or have a patrol vehicle follow you off property). Some think this is harsh but its been proven that if I tell you to stop, the second I am out of sight, you will continue to solicit.

    EDIT: If we can not find the persons, I will grab a flyer and track them down and advise them of policy and what will happen if we catch them again.
    Last edited by FireEMSPolice; 10-10-2007, 05:44 PM.
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    • #3
      We have this problem at the hospital sometimes.

      If the persons are seen distributing the flyers they are taken to our office, info is taken, and they are photographed because they are tresspassing. They are then escorted off the property with a tresspass warning.

      If they aren't found we just usually collect all of the flyers we find and file them in the circlular file...aka the trash can. We will usually keep one of them as a reference to compare to other flyers found on campus and to link the persons who are caught to the other flyerings.
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      Me- "Should we call the police?" My FTO- "Justin, here, we are the police. Go get em."

      Originally posted by Black Caesar
      some people just need killin!!!!! (Or Tasing, or pepper spraying or whatever).

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      • #4
        Most corporate premises have a sign on their doors: NO HAWKERS OR CANVASSERS. This is edvises people against making any door to door sales. 2 years ago I had a Car Detailing company enter one of the store for a company I worked for and ask me to buy the vouchers. I asked him to leave and told him why. He got agressive and I asked him to leave again. I then advised him he would be arrested and taken to the police station just 100 yards away if he did not leave but stated the staff could see him outside on the street. I think something similar at entry points in malls is definitely a legal issue that will cover the mall security for removing someone who is trespassing.
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        • #5
          There are 3 or 4 pizza restaurants in downtown Montreal that live on delivering pizzas over night to the kids that come to Montreal on the weekends to take advantage of our lower legal drinking age. There is a restaurant in the hotel that sells pizza. It is a concession. they close at midnight. The kids come back from the bars at 03h00. The rules are we have to direct the guests to the hotel's restaurant while it is open. Afterwards we can suggest whoever we want. ALL the restaurant give the front desk staff free food. They leave their menus at the front desk. One restaurant does not play by the rules. He sends people into the hotel & puts menus under all the doors. This does not look good in a 4 star hotel & makes the guy paying rent for the concession mad. We continuously warned the restaurant to stop going on our floors. Because Quebec has no trespass to property act all we can do when we catch them is escort them out of the hotel. They come back. We have sent letters to the restaurant but they ignored them.

          So one night I called the restaurant & ordered the most expensive pizza on the menu (seafood). I gave them the room number of a vacant room. I had other people call doing the same thing. I then called the owner of the restaurant & told him that phone calls from my hotel are free, the seafood pizzas cost him - if he didn't want to go bankrupt he better play by the rules. BTW he has since gone bankrupt
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          • #6
            Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
            So one night I called the restaurant & ordered the most expensive pizza on the menu (seafood). I gave them the room number of a vacant room. I had other people call doing the same thing. I then called the owner of the restaurant & told him that phone calls from my hotel are free, the seafood pizzas cost him - if he didn't want to go bankrupt he better play by the rules. BTW he has since gone bankrupt
            now that's thinking outside the box!!
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            • #7
              I used to have to play with the pizza dudes. We got food from Papa Johns at 75% off. Papa Johns advertised with the three hotels that we had for placement in the room directory. These guys were small hole in the wall joints that were frightening to behold.

              They'd sneak in the back (Days Inn was an open layout, so it wasn't hard) then drop flyers through every door. This was after parking in the fire lane.

              They ran out of delivery guys after we started issuing trespass warnings for soliciting.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
                So one night I called the restaurant & ordered the most expensive pizza on the menu (seafood). I gave them the room number of a vacant room. I had other people call doing the same thing. I then called the owner of the restaurant & told him that phone calls from my hotel are free, the seafood pizzas cost him - if he didn't want to go bankrupt he better play by the rules. BTW he has since gone bankrupt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                  I used to have to play with the pizza dudes. We got food from Papa Johns at 75% off. Papa Johns advertised with the three hotels that we had for placement in the room directory. These guys were small hole in the wall joints that were frightening to behold.

                  They'd sneak in the back (Days Inn was an open layout, so it wasn't hard) then drop flyers through every door. This was after parking in the fire lane.

                  They ran out of delivery guys after we started issuing trespass warnings for soliciting.
                  How long did they take to distribute the flyers? If it took long enough, could you have had the car towed for parking in the fire lane, or at least have parking enforcement ticket it? Just a thought. I once had a deputy sheriff write tickets to "customers" of a tenant in an apartment complex where I was working, as they would use the handicap parking stall as they went to retrieve their "purchase" (ie:crack)
                  "Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists. " Author Unknown

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Andy Taylor View Post
                    How long did they take to distribute the flyers? If it took long enough, could you have had the car towed for parking in the fire lane, or at least have parking enforcement ticket it? Just a thought. I once had a deputy sheriff write tickets to "customers" of a tenant in an apartment complex where I was working, as they would use the handicap parking stall as they went to retrieve their "purchase" (ie:crack)
                    Only the general manager of the hotel could order a car towed. Tampa Police won't write tickets for such offenses at night back then, it was considered a waste of their time. In Tampa, you basically need a sworn officer to issue a citation.
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                    • #11
                      About 2 weeks ago I heard a noise out my front door while getting ready for work. This was at about 6 in the morning and VERY unusual even for paperboys- who leave the paper at the front gate of the apartment complex.

                      I was in my BDUs and boots, had my vest on but now my uniform shirt when I had a scraping sound on the handle of my door. I grabbed my Maverick and racked it, quickly opening the door to the immense excitement of a 'paperboy' of a different kind. Pissed at the gall of this guy at 6AM I simply shouted "GET OUT OF HERE!" while he ran off. Tiny, hole in the wall pizza place that's had more health violations than Walter Reed hospital.
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