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  • #16
    if Erik Prince wasn't a good friend of the Bush family- I'd say yes. As it is I'm expecting 'expedient resolution'. That is, I'm expecting the news corporations to lose interest in the story very soon. Rather like the IAF air raid in Syria last week.

    Any word what kind of weapons and who they were meant for? certainly not insurgent groups...
    Last edited by Ron Jessee; 09-22-2007, 02:39 PM.
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    • #17
      Has anyone heard the latest?? They now have former operators willing to testify against Blackwater on brining in unregistered firearms and other weapons. Oh the tangled webs we weave.....

      Be safe,

      Hank
      " We are determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on one hand and of overwhelming force on the other" - General George C. Marshall

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      • #18
        What's going to be a good company to apply with that is going to get all of the Blackwater accounts?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by WatnNY View Post
          What's going to be a good company to apply with that is going to get all of the Blackwater accounts?
          MVM.
          More text to fill up the "message you entered is too short" requirement...

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          • #20
            Basic contents of a letter I just sent to my district congresmen and Senators.

            Congresman or Senator.

            So far all the information garnered about Blackwater is from the news media. There are politicians that are scared of the prospect of a for hire civilian security/protective (police) force. There is great fear of lack of political control of the civilian force.

            As with previous wars, the Viet Nam war comes to mind (Oh, sorry. That was a conflict or a policing action or some BS.) the war in Iraq and action elsewhere is being directed from Washington D.C. by people who don't sleep in trenches, wear flack jackets and are afraid of offending........somebody.

            An outfit like Blackwater is an easy target for political/news media attacks, even thought they appearently are very effective and have a good track record as do several like Security Organizations.

            Blackwater, like any organization, will have a bad apple or two. The bad apples will get all the news media attension and political questions. The 99% success rate will be ignored.

            These Brothers and Sisters-in-arms, who are providing a much needed Service, operating under this nation's flag, have my respect and support untill I "see" or it is proven they are doing wrong.

            I will not judge these Americans based on reports from the news media circus. These people are "Security Officers" and I respect them as such. We should support these people and not use them as political scape goats.

            SC
            Project Manager
            Security Services Corp.
            Last edited by mh892; 09-23-2007, 08:49 AM.

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            • #21
              And "MVM" is who???

              [QUOTE=OccamsRazor;40502]MVM.

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              • #22
                what I don't get is who they could possibly be moving weapons for? those Blackwater were allied with last week are shooting at them this week...
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                • #23
                  One of the articles I read indicated that Blackwater and a lot of PMCs are actually unable to get permits from the Iraqi Provisional Government to possess their weapons in Iraq. The US has put pressure on Iraq to ignore this, and to extend the deadline till it becomes "illegal," but it technically was anyway.

                  That's the "gun smuggling," I'll bet. Nobody at the State Department could figure out how to get gun permits for Blackwater. They had two choices: Carry illegal guns which the Iraqis might seize, or stop all operations. Obviously, the State Department couldn't have the latter.
                  Some Kind of Commando Leader

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                  • #24
                    Black Water

                    Originally posted by Ron Jessee View Post
                    what I don't get is who they could possibly be moving weapons for? those Blackwater were allied with last week are shooting at them this week...
                    Ron Mercenaries are allied one min the next min there your emeny .
                    They fight for who ever has most cheese.
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                    • #25
                      So how were they going to "legally" protect those convoys, harsh language?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ron Jessee View Post
                        So how were they going to "legally" protect those convoys, harsh language?
                        Not the Iraqi's problem. Come on, its a charliefoxtrot over there with the Iraqi government. Blackwater isn't the only ones running with unlicensed weapons, I bet.
                        Some Kind of Commando Leader

                        "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by WatnNY View Post
                          And "MVM" is who???
                          http://www.mvminc.com/

                          MVM Inc. is a government contractor with international presence that provides Physical Security, Detention Services, Personal Security Details, Prisoner Escort/Transportation, Training, Language Services, and related services to US Government clients. With over 3000 worldwide employees and $200 million in revenue MVM is among the five largest privately held security companies in the country and a recognized leader for global security solutions. It has grown from a small firm specializing in executive protection to a GSA approved full-service provider of highly skilled, experienced, and trained security professionals. Our highly cleared personnel protect federal property and information all over the world.


                          Note: A co-worker was formerly a contractor with them and has nothing but praise. If it weren't for blowing out his knees whilst off-duty, he'd still be with them.

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                          • #28
                            Thanks for the detailed information on MVM, OccamsRazor.

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