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I know this may have been discussed in the past, i am not defaming or flaming police officers, i am just stating my experiences with them here in my City.
Well first off let me say i support the police, and would like to not be flamed or troll attacked for posting my opinions here.
Lets Travel back in time a little bit, back to the end of 2001 begining of 2002, I had landed my first Security Officer job, working for a company called sentinel guard systems in California, i worked in a 42 floor High - Rise Building in the Heart of downtown on sansom and sutter streets, the police officers there often trained us in things like suspect identifaction, things to look for when looking for possible explosive devices, drug identifaction and how to interact with those that may be on drugs. We had a good working relationship with the police anytime they were called out, they didnt treat us like thier lessor, they treated us equal, we often would let them stop in and use our non-public restrooms as long as they signed in, they did not have a problem signing in at the desk. Things were great San Francisco Police had a respect for security from what i have dealt with.
Daly City, Ca - Daly City Police actually gave us a police radio to use in case of emergency we had a direct line to the PD that we could take and go mobile with, Daly city Police also Treated us well sometimes, depending on which department, parking very well, street patrol and dispatch very well, narc/undercover very crappy, let me explain, i once had a recovered stolen vehicle daly city pd treated us equal, parking would cite handicap violations if we called them they treated us equal. now once i had about 6 or 7 narc/uc police officers on site, they flashed thier badges to me as they pulled into the parking lot while i was doing an exterior round on the property i was assigned to, now they hung around starbucks for about 1 hr, then went over by the movie theatre ,(i didnt know some where pd) i then say about 10-15 people looking like they were in a scuffle, so i go outside to appoarch taking the dispatch radio with me, as i approached i was told to go back to the office and they would stop by and talk with me to give me a run-down on what happened, but they never came back in however durning this event i had cameras focused to thier location, but they never came back, so my IR which i was supposed to do was a little bit bland it was something to the effect of, pd was onsite, something happened by the theather, not sure if any one was arrested or not, pd said they would stop by, they never did to debrief me.
Okay now....
While working a section 8 property here in Utah, i had the local police tell me my job was to be access control only, to allow people in and off property, i was not nor should i care about things like minors in posseion of alcohol, they told me, that how do you know thats actually alcohol, and not water in the beer bottles to make themselves look cool, i stated i honestly dont know, but how do we not know its not alcohol, they then stated well they are in their house although they were climbing up and down the balcony so we (police) cant do anything about it, i stated to them my boss said that you guys would come out and cite them, we know adrian has warrents as the last time you guys came out and cited he had some hits, i then stated well i could call my boss and you guys can talk to him if you want to he is ex-police officer, they stated oh well theres no need to do that, we are police and we are telling you, your job is only access control, not to be worring about law enforcement activies, if some one is breaking the law we will handle thats what we do, not you. (this is were i got sour with the police, since this incident i have not cared for police officers to well) I then at this point bit my lip, I then waited till the police left, called my boss and yelled at him about this incident telling him that even though i told them what you had told me, they told me this (see above), I then stated maybe we should call their watch commander and file a complaint, he stated no, because if we do and SHTF on property and by chance those two officers show back up, they will be reluctant to do anything. however i still continued doing my duties after they left, i was pissed i wanted to tresspass those two from property but withheld doing so, my image of SLCPD is forever tarnished because of these two.
Salt Lake County Sheriff - Only had to call them a few times once for a wanted fugitive that absconed from washington, and weber county jail here in utah, they seemed very helpful, in directing me to whom i should talk to (4-way call SLCPD, SLCSO, Weber County SO, washington dept of corrections) about 5-10 mins after placing call two SLCPD officers came to property and arrested the wanted individual. i told them i wanted to remain anomious in the case, as for fear of retailation as the gentle man was a gang member, the case went down as an Undercover Police officer made the arrest.
Taylorsville PD- The police officers here were respect ful and actually thanked me for calling them, i had worked a property were there were some RVs that had broken windows and graffiti on them, i called them in as break ins, suspcious circumstances, the officer that responded meet up with me and stated these were old break ins on two of them, and on the other they had no case, but it didnt not appear that any were reported stolen, they attempted to locate owner of the pick up that had been stripped and gutted, but no luck negivate info in NCIC, or whatever they were using to verify phone numbers, address and etc. The officer thanked me for being vigilant and told me to call anytime if something doesnt feel right, as it is better to be safe then sorry.
Murray PD - Thier officers upset me too, a few times they came on property lights flashing, i would try to appoarch and they would peel off, and leave property, a few times they drove threw spot lighting the property looking for something or someone, i once again would try to appoarch even flaggin my arms around they would not stop and talk to me, although i may have seen who or what they are looking for.
So all in all, my experience with police has in some cases been professional with the police officers williing to work with security and seeing us as an equal, however most of the time it is the latter of cops not wanting to work with security and thinking of us as bumps on a log, stupid , wannabe or whatever.
Well first off let me say i support the police, and would like to not be flamed or troll attacked for posting my opinions here.
Lets Travel back in time a little bit, back to the end of 2001 begining of 2002, I had landed my first Security Officer job, working for a company called sentinel guard systems in California, i worked in a 42 floor High - Rise Building in the Heart of downtown on sansom and sutter streets, the police officers there often trained us in things like suspect identifaction, things to look for when looking for possible explosive devices, drug identifaction and how to interact with those that may be on drugs. We had a good working relationship with the police anytime they were called out, they didnt treat us like thier lessor, they treated us equal, we often would let them stop in and use our non-public restrooms as long as they signed in, they did not have a problem signing in at the desk. Things were great San Francisco Police had a respect for security from what i have dealt with.
Daly City, Ca - Daly City Police actually gave us a police radio to use in case of emergency we had a direct line to the PD that we could take and go mobile with, Daly city Police also Treated us well sometimes, depending on which department, parking very well, street patrol and dispatch very well, narc/undercover very crappy, let me explain, i once had a recovered stolen vehicle daly city pd treated us equal, parking would cite handicap violations if we called them they treated us equal. now once i had about 6 or 7 narc/uc police officers on site, they flashed thier badges to me as they pulled into the parking lot while i was doing an exterior round on the property i was assigned to, now they hung around starbucks for about 1 hr, then went over by the movie theatre ,(i didnt know some where pd) i then say about 10-15 people looking like they were in a scuffle, so i go outside to appoarch taking the dispatch radio with me, as i approached i was told to go back to the office and they would stop by and talk with me to give me a run-down on what happened, but they never came back in however durning this event i had cameras focused to thier location, but they never came back, so my IR which i was supposed to do was a little bit bland it was something to the effect of, pd was onsite, something happened by the theather, not sure if any one was arrested or not, pd said they would stop by, they never did to debrief me.
Okay now....
While working a section 8 property here in Utah, i had the local police tell me my job was to be access control only, to allow people in and off property, i was not nor should i care about things like minors in posseion of alcohol, they told me, that how do you know thats actually alcohol, and not water in the beer bottles to make themselves look cool, i stated i honestly dont know, but how do we not know its not alcohol, they then stated well they are in their house although they were climbing up and down the balcony so we (police) cant do anything about it, i stated to them my boss said that you guys would come out and cite them, we know adrian has warrents as the last time you guys came out and cited he had some hits, i then stated well i could call my boss and you guys can talk to him if you want to he is ex-police officer, they stated oh well theres no need to do that, we are police and we are telling you, your job is only access control, not to be worring about law enforcement activies, if some one is breaking the law we will handle thats what we do, not you. (this is were i got sour with the police, since this incident i have not cared for police officers to well) I then at this point bit my lip, I then waited till the police left, called my boss and yelled at him about this incident telling him that even though i told them what you had told me, they told me this (see above), I then stated maybe we should call their watch commander and file a complaint, he stated no, because if we do and SHTF on property and by chance those two officers show back up, they will be reluctant to do anything. however i still continued doing my duties after they left, i was pissed i wanted to tresspass those two from property but withheld doing so, my image of SLCPD is forever tarnished because of these two.
Salt Lake County Sheriff - Only had to call them a few times once for a wanted fugitive that absconed from washington, and weber county jail here in utah, they seemed very helpful, in directing me to whom i should talk to (4-way call SLCPD, SLCSO, Weber County SO, washington dept of corrections) about 5-10 mins after placing call two SLCPD officers came to property and arrested the wanted individual. i told them i wanted to remain anomious in the case, as for fear of retailation as the gentle man was a gang member, the case went down as an Undercover Police officer made the arrest.
Taylorsville PD- The police officers here were respect ful and actually thanked me for calling them, i had worked a property were there were some RVs that had broken windows and graffiti on them, i called them in as break ins, suspcious circumstances, the officer that responded meet up with me and stated these were old break ins on two of them, and on the other they had no case, but it didnt not appear that any were reported stolen, they attempted to locate owner of the pick up that had been stripped and gutted, but no luck negivate info in NCIC, or whatever they were using to verify phone numbers, address and etc. The officer thanked me for being vigilant and told me to call anytime if something doesnt feel right, as it is better to be safe then sorry.
Murray PD - Thier officers upset me too, a few times they came on property lights flashing, i would try to appoarch and they would peel off, and leave property, a few times they drove threw spot lighting the property looking for something or someone, i once again would try to appoarch even flaggin my arms around they would not stop and talk to me, although i may have seen who or what they are looking for.
So all in all, my experience with police has in some cases been professional with the police officers williing to work with security and seeing us as an equal, however most of the time it is the latter of cops not wanting to work with security and thinking of us as bumps on a log, stupid , wannabe or whatever.
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