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    Next time you're tempted to gripe about those "non-security duties" on your job, think of this job description for a commissioned, sworn Park Ranger in our county:

    Essential Job Duties:
    ▪ Performs law enforcement duties such as issuing citations for park violations, investigations of illegal dumping on park properties, checking on report of timber theft and patrolling assigned park areas for public safety and compliance of day-use parking and camping fees. Also follows up on failure to pay notices and issues citations as warranted by code.

    ▪ Cleans, sanitizes restrooms, replenishes towels, toilet tissue, soap and other supplies; empties waste baskets; collects and disposes of garbage and litter; cleans picnic shelters; clears trails and sweeps, rakes and picks up trash from grounds; cleans fire rings and fireplaces.

    ▪ Mows, edges, trims, irrigates and fertilizes lawns; weeds planting beds; irrigates and fertilizes and maintains a variety of flowers, plants, shrubs and trees.

    ▪ Inspects park grounds, play equipment, ball fields and facilities; corrects or reports unsafe or unsanitary conditions.

    ▪ Makes minor repairs to picnic tables, benches, garbage receptacles, play structures and other structures.

    ▪ Operates trucks, tractors, power mowers, chain saws, line trimmers, and other small power equipment; may provide minor equipment repair.

    ▪ Answers questions and provides information on the county park system to park users; opens and closes park gates.

    ▪ Renders First Aid, CPR, or other emergency assistance as necessary.

    ▪ Maintains required records and prepares routine reports.

    ▪ Installs and maintains signs.

    As I've said before...almost all jobs these days have "unrelated duties", not just your job.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
    Next time you're tempted to gripe about those "non-security duties" on your job, think of this job description for a commissioned, sworn Park Ranger in our county...
    Sno County really seems to whore their employees out. Too bad the pay isn't better for that type of workload.

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    • #3
      That's the nature of park ranger jobs (up here we call them park wardens); while your main job is to provide law enforcement/security services, you're basically responsible for the well-being of the park and its residents/visitors as a whole. It's generally a combination of the fact that park generally have low operating budgets and less crime than a non-park population. From my experience working as a maintenance student at a provincial park, many newly hired wardens didn't really understand this. They had taken their police foundations course at the local community college, and were looking at policing careers. They often weren't very happy with performing non-leo duties. Other wardens, particularly the ones with backgrounds in natural sciences, were more than happy to engage in these duties.

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      • #4
        Even so, that seems so extraordinary to me. In one moment your in law enforcement mode handing out tickets to cleaning service mode changing out toilet paper. Damn cutbacks!!

        Be safe,

        Hank
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
          Next time you're tempted to gripe about those "non-security duties" on your job, think of this job description for a commissioned, sworn Park Ranger in our county:

          Essential Job Duties:
          ▪ Performs law enforcement duties such as issuing citations for park violations, investigations of illegal dumping on park properties, checking on report of timber theft and patrolling assigned park areas for public safety and compliance of day-use parking and camping fees. Also follows up on failure to pay notices and issues citations as warranted by code.

          ▪ Cleans, sanitizes restrooms, replenishes towels, toilet tissue, soap and other supplies; empties waste baskets; collects and disposes of garbage and litter; cleans picnic shelters; clears trails and sweeps, rakes and picks up trash from grounds; cleans fire rings and fireplaces.

          ▪ Mows, edges, trims, irrigates and fertilizes lawns; weeds planting beds; irrigates and fertilizes and maintains a variety of flowers, plants, shrubs and trees.

          ▪ Inspects park grounds, play equipment, ball fields and facilities; corrects or reports unsafe or unsanitary conditions.

          ▪ Makes minor repairs to picnic tables, benches, garbage receptacles, play structures and other structures.

          ▪ Operates trucks, tractors, power mowers, chain saws, line trimmers, and other small power equipment; may provide minor equipment repair.

          ▪ Answers questions and provides information on the county park system to park users; opens and closes park gates.

          ▪ Renders First Aid, CPR, or other emergency assistance as necessary.

          ▪ Maintains required records and prepares routine reports.

          ▪ Installs and maintains signs.

          As I've said before...almost all jobs these days have "unrelated duties", not just your job.
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          • #6
            Those other duties are fine IMO as long as they tell you about them upfront.

            When I was a Detention Service officer a deputy chief decided it would be a good idea to get rid of all the Support Services delivery drivers (who delivered food , laundry and other supplies to the jails as well as transported prisoner trustees fropm place to place) and simpyl require us DSOs to get CDL licenses. I hired on to be a DSO, not a truck driver, my job description said nothing about trucks. I quit shortly thereafter and went to work for a Hospital PD as a non-sworn Public Service Officer , and they never asked my to drive anything bigger than the patient transport van lol.

            At my current job our description says we'll do the police thing, the seucrty thing and the "other duties as assigned" thing. Thats fine, I've delivred a paper or two (dozen) to the Chancellor's Office, but they told me up front. I don't think that's too much to ask. Some of these companies hire people and then "flip the script" on them, knowing the worker can't afford to quit. That's wrong imo.
            Last edited by Black Caesar; 09-08-2007, 01:32 AM.
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            • #7
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              Who was this guy kidding. A venomous duck. The military nearly lost a SEAL team and a Green Beret unit to one last year. No way one guy could do it.
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              • #8
                You're gonna make me reread that damned thread.
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                • #9
                  Wow, that's alot of no security stuff for a park ranger.
                  At my site we used to have a janitor service which came through all the buildings after hours to clean up. Well, I wasn't there but apparently one of the janitors and a scale house employee has words. For whatever reason the janitor refused to clean our building which houses the scale office and the security department.
                  We didn't get a pay raise or anything but we got a new memo stating that during the night shift the security officers are responsible for emptying the trash cans and sweeping and moping the building. I called bovine feces on the matter and refused to participate in the new chores.
                  About 9 months ago they got a janitor who comes into our building every week day morning. She cleans only the bathroom but not the kitchen, hall, scale area or security area. Her stated reason, "The guards are contracters so they can be responsible for guard shack part the building." OK, but even with that reasoning she still does not clean the scale office or shared spaces like the kitchen. The scale operators are all Plant employees.
                  We were given a key to the toilet paper holder and the paper towel machine in the bathroom. The guards were expected to refill these in the same bathroom the janitor cleans each day. Again I called bovine feces. After the janitor finishes cleaning the toilet and sink and moping the floor she can restock the paper products. Either that or the guards on the day shift can do it. I ain't.
                  Recently we had a employee meeting where the rule regarding the guards cleaning the building were addressed. I reminded the supervisor that I had not seen a pay raise in 3 years and there was no way I was going to perform the extra janitor duties without extra compensation. The discussion was dropped.
                  Is still don't mop the floors or bother with the trash. I just don't care.
                  Last edited by EMTGuard; 09-08-2007, 08:07 AM.
                  Hospital Security Officer

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                  • #10
                    I think it depends on if it is a federal park or a state park. Most state parks these days are hanging on by a thread as cut backs have them on the short list of necessary services an are for the most part staffed with volunteers and min wage folks that unlike pro athletes do their job for the love of it. I have a thing about going into the bathroom at work on one of those days that need instant dumpage only to find the toilet is to disgusting to even think of using. I have 4 boys and only changed 1 dirty diaper yet on the days described above I will do a quick cleanup of said hopper. Go figure. Of course it would be beneficial to all to employ a few well screened homeless or down on their luck to preform these cleaning duties.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hank1 View Post
                      Even so, that seems so extraordinary to me. In one moment your in law enforcement mode handing out tickets to cleaning service mode changing out toilet paper. Damn cutbacks!!

                      Be safe,

                      Hank
                      "Oh, I'm very sorry sir. Let me wipe the crap off that citation...I was just cleaning a toilet and I guess something stuck to my fingers..."
                      "Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques

                      "I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
                        Wow, that's alot of no security stuff for a park ranger.
                        At my site we used to have a janitor service which came through all the buildings after hours to clean up. Well, I wasn't there but apparently one of the janitors and a scale house employee has words. For whatever reason the janitor refused to clean our building which houses the scale office and the security department.
                        We didn't get a pay raise or anything but we got a new memo stating that during the night shift the security officers are responsible for emptying the trash cans and sweeping and moping the building. I called bovine feces on the matter and refused to participate in the new chores.
                        About 9 months ago they got a janitor who comes into our building every week day morning. She cleans only the bathroom but not the kitchen, hall, scale area or security area. Her stated reason, "The guards are contracters so they can be responsible for guard shack part the building." OK, but even with that reasoning she still does not clean the scale office or shared spaces like the kitchen. The scale operators are all Plant employees.
                        We were given a key to the toilet paper holder and the paper towel machine in the bathroom. The guards were expected to refill these in the same bathroom the janitor cleans each day. Again I called bovine feces. After the janitor finishes cleaning the toilet and sink and moping the floor she can restock the paper products. Either that or the guards on the day shift can do it. I ain't.
                        Recently we had a employee meeting where the rule regarding the guards cleaning the building were addressed. I reminded the supervisor that I had not seen a pay raise in 3 years and there was no way I was going to perform the extra janitor duties without extra compensation. The discussion was dropped.
                        Is still don't mop the floors or bother with the trash. I just don't care.
                        When I complained when I was told my staff would have to replace the Houseman 2nights a week (A Houseman is a male Maid, he does the heavy Housekeeping work in an hotel, not Maintenance, who fixes broken thiongs), I was told they could look for new jobs. One of my guys did just that, he quit & joined the Maintenance department. (Better pay & they get every 2nd weekend off). Sometimes Management is NOT bluffing.
                        I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
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                        • #13
                          Sometimes it's not a matter of bluffing but knowing that they are not in any position to replace you. Remember, I quit this job last December and was gone about 2 weeks. With my 2 week notice they had a month to find someone to take my spot. They didn't and when I came back it was on my terms. They know taht they can't use the "find another job" line when we are willing to jump ship at any time and finding replacements is next to impossible. Besides, they can't have too big of a problem with me. I just got a phone call wanting me to come in for another 8 hours of overtime on my night off. Gotta go get my uniform on.
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                          • #14
                            I work at a shopping center on graves and one thing the property manger asked me to do is bring in the carts that ventured far off around the center. I don't have to take it to the store, just a little a closer. I hate doing it, but it dosen't kill me. but if I had to clean toilets I would find another company. actually if they gave me a little more money I would do it, but If i'm working as a s/o then thats the kind of work I wanna do. anything extra requires extra money.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by EMTGuard View Post
                              Sometimes it's not a matter of bluffing but knowing that they are not in any position to replace you. Remember, I quit this job last December and was gone about 2 weeks. With my 2 week notice they had a month to find someone to take my spot. They didn't and when I came back it was on my terms. They know taht they can't use the "find another job" line when we are willing to jump ship at any time and finding replacements is next to impossible. Besides, they can't have too big of a problem with me. I just got a phone call wanting me to come in for another 8 hours of overtime on my night off. Gotta go get my uniform on.
                              I wish we were in that boat. The only job I ever "had them by the ...." was my first hotel where I was Security Officer/Fire Marshal. They knew if they canned me they would be inspected to death by Fire Inspectors, Health Inspectors, Workmen's Safety Inspectors, Office de la Langue Francaise etc etc
                              I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                              Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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