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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
    Yes, and there's still a Flat Earth Society, and we never really landed on the moon - the whole thing was staged in Hollywood.

    Of course, you fail to mention that there are millions MORE "intellectual and everyday people" who find the "evidence" of your theories utterly insupportable. You conspirists make me laugh. You're the only half-dozen people in the world who "get it", aren't you?

    As for your knowledge about Islamic terrorism, the economics of oil, 9/11 and world events, if ignorance were a crime you'd be doing about 38 consecutive life sentences and pushing this crap out through the bars instead of posting it on the Internet.

    Fortunately for you, ignorance is not the crime it should be, but you can still be locked up. Be sure you stay one jump ahead of the nice men in white coats with the nets...they're on your trail. That's right - look behind you! Didn't that shrub just move?

    Turkey.
    I have made an exception to my boycott of responding to anything you post ever since you insulted the Canadian military & REFUSED to apologize.

    I have reported your above post because it is not necessary to call someone you do not agree with a Turkey. I have made my statement, don't bother to respond because I will NEVER respond directly to you until you apologize for insulting Canadian soldiers who died for your type pf government.

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  • ddog
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    Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
    Yes, and there's still a Flat Earth Society, and we never really landed on the moon - the whole thing was staged in Hollywood.

    Of course, you fail to mention that there are millions MORE "intellectual and everyday people" who find the "evidence" of your theories utterly insupportable. You conspirists make me laugh. You're the only half-dozen people in the world who "get it", aren't you?

    As for your knowledge about Islamic terrorism, the economics of oil, 9/11 and world events, if ignorance were a crime you'd be doing about 38 consecutive life sentences and pushing this crap out through the bars instead of posting it on the Internet.

    Fortunately for you, ignorance is not the crime it should be, but you can still be locked up. Be sure you stay one jump ahead of the nice men in white coats with the nets...they're on your trail. That's right - look behind you! Didn't that shrub just move?

    Turkey.
    I always wondered if there was anyone out there buying 'ANY' of GW Bush's dribbel. Congratulations. Except for US and UK, it is more common knowledge world wide of his industry wide get-rich-quick scheme. Even in US, his twenty something percentage approval alone would indicate you are in (way) left field with your observations. Keep your blinders on and believe everything Industrialist politicians tell you. Your ignorance is feeding billionaires, if others can believe your subjective propoganda that is as specific in evidence as possible defending your weak argument

    The real terrorists are in the Whitehouse whether you can figure it out or not. Good luck.

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  • SecTrainer
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    Originally posted by ddog View Post
    For over approximately 30 reasons (too many to mention here), including starting the Bush/Oil Depression Administration, many intellectual and everyday people all over the world believe GW Bush is responsible for 9-11. He was a millionaire, and now is a billionaire Just think real hard about events logically and happening beyond reasonable chance with a handful of poverty stricken boys from a place GW just spent his Summer vacation in Arabia, and supposedly a man dragging a dialysis machine from cave to cave transfusing his blood every other day (don't think too hard though).
    Yes, and there's still a Flat Earth Society, and we never really landed on the moon - the whole thing was staged in Hollywood.

    Of course, you fail to mention that there are millions MORE "intellectual and everyday people" who find the "evidence" of your theories utterly insupportable. You conspirists make me laugh. You're the only half-dozen people in the world who "get it", aren't you?

    As for your knowledge about Islamic terrorism, the economics of oil, 9/11 and world events, if ignorance were a crime you'd be doing about 38 consecutive life sentences and pushing this crap out through the bars instead of posting it on the Internet.

    Fortunately for you, ignorance is not the crime it should be, but you can still be locked up. Be sure you stay one jump ahead of the nice men in white coats with the nets...they're on your trail. That's right - look behind you! Didn't that shrub just move?

    Turkey.
    Last edited by SecTrainer; 09-08-2007, 12:52 PM.

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  • ddog
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    Originally posted by Hank1 View Post
    I suppose the first attack on the WTC was just my imagination. The kidnapping and beheadings of innocent people was also my imagination. The attacks on the Isreali schools are imaginary too......Yeah, they are invisible but they sure left some visible damage.

    Be safe,

    Hank
    For over approximately 30 reasons (too many to mention here), including starting the Bush/Oil Depression Administration, many intellectual and everyday people all over the world believe GW Bush is responsible for 9-11. He was a millionaire, and now is a billionaire Just think real hard about events logically and happening beyond reasonable chance with a handful of poverty stricken boys from a place GW just spent his Summer vacation in Arabia, and supposedly a man dragging a dialysis machine from cave to cave transfusing his blood every other day (don't think too hard though).

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  • ddog
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    Originally posted by Ian View Post
    In addition to the Muslim threat which is far far greater that any envisaged during the cold war era we have our own governments and their policies to contend with. Sounds like "the enemy within" Here is an interesting, if somewhat long article:

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States.

    He said,"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"
    "Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

    "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi cultural country."

    History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence.

    Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on:

    Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences.

    Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.


    Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

    Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

    "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority of the population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographicalconditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

    Seventh - "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a wordsimilar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate.

    Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,.

    Eighth - "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book"

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

    American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, twenty million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.
    Don't hold back Ian, spit it out.

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  • ValleyOne
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    Shhhh, I swapped them with placebo's the other day

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  • SecTrainer
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    Did someone forget to lock the medicine cabinet again?

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  • Ian
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    In addition to the Muslim threat which is far far greater that any envisaged during the cold war era we have our own governments and their policies to contend with. Sounds like "the enemy within" Here is an interesting, if somewhat long article:

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States.

    He said,"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"
    "Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

    "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi cultural country."

    History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence.

    Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on:

    Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences.

    Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.


    Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

    Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

    "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority of the population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographicalconditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

    Seventh - "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a wordsimilar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate.

    Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,.

    Eighth - "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book"

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

    American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, twenty million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    Were some the first leaders of Israel not terrorists? (Bombs in milk cans in the King David hotel)?
    One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Were some the first leaders of Israel not terrorists? (Bombs in milk cans in the King David hotel)?

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  • Hank1
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    My imagination.......

    I suppose the first attack on the WTC was just my imagination. The kidnapping and beheadings of innocent people was also my imagination. The attacks on the Isreali schools are imaginary too......Yeah, they are invisible but they sure left some visible damage.

    Be safe,

    Hank

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    supporting terror on SIW

    Just impeach Bush/Cheney and split oil Industry Giants back up like they should be, and you will see the invisible terrorists that just appear around oil producing Middle Eastern countries dissappear.
    Last time I watched the news, those sh*tbags aren't invisible. Also, they were around long before Bush was, probably before he was born.

    Right now terrorism is just a slush fund for good cop/bad cop politicians. They were invented by the oil companies, and they will die with the oil companies fossil fuel.
    Put some logic behind this one, not liberal media blather. If oil companies invented terrorism, how come have we seen it used against people who have nothing to do with the oil companies? Saddam was a terrorist, genocide is also terrorism. This a$$hole killed his own countrymen. Al-Qaida (I don't care how you want to spell it) mandates the killing of its own countrymen, especially women, for wanting to have an opinion. Also a very terrible thing. When they want to press that bullsh*t upon this nation and blow up our civilians, the need to be dead. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Sidenote: Why would oil companies 'invent' something that kills a great deal of its customers? Doesn't seem very logical...why? BECAUSE IT ISN'T

    Its just the perfect invisible enemy that just keeps stealing tax money, picked up by countries all over the world: like communists of years past.
    The invisible enemies who flew planes into the Pentagon and Twin Towers? They sure didn't look invisible on TV.

    We need to stop BS'ing around with terrorists and those in America who support the killing of their own citizens. 'If you're not for us, you're against us' seems like a true battle cry for the age in which we live.

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  • JSam21
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    invisible? Guess you didn't watch any TV on 9-11-01

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  • ddog
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    Just impeach Bush/Cheney

    Just impeach Bush/Cheney and split oil Industry Giants back up like they should be, and you will see the invisible terrorists that just appear around oil producing Middle Eastern countries dissappear.

    Right now terrorism is just a slush fund for good cop/bad cop politicians. They were invented by the oil companies, and they will die with the oil companies fossil fuel.

    Its just the perfect invisible enemy that just keeps stealing tax money, picked up by countries all over the world: like communists of years past.

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  • Ian
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    Now if we can only convince the rest of the crazy terrorists out there then we might get somewhere. We, however have to be very careful in sitting back thinking that we can solve the problem as easily as this. The following site, whilst being a bit militant does in a way portray what we are facing:
    http://usawakeup.org/mission.htm

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