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    Yeh so im getting into security and plan to do a lot of crowd controlling. What would be a good art to learn?

    Someone recommended Judo? Ne good advices?

    hiiii

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    Originally posted by fryzie View Post
    Yeh so im getting into security and plan to do a lot of crowd controlling. What would be a good art to learn?
    The 'art' of talking down an opponent & de-escalating potentially hazardous situations...

    Failing that... there's Jujutsu/Jujitsu which teaches many useful techniques and was originally taught to Japanese Police during the Fuedal period, our Basic Defensive Tactics Instructor (also a Jujistu instructor) explained that learning too many physical combat skills can actually have a negative effect in relation to reaction times
    "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give" - Winston Churchill

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fryzie View Post
      Yeh so im getting into security and plan to do a lot of crowd controlling. What would be a good art to learn?

      Someone recommended Judo? Ne good advices?

      hiiii
      I asked this question to my supervisor the very 1st day I worked as a S/O.

      He told me "Run Fu".
      ~Black Caesar~
      Corbier's Commandos

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      • #4
        Observe, run and report later. At least that's the feelings of most of us perhaps come September 30th.
        My views, opinions and statements are my own. They are not of my company, affiliates or coworkers.

        -Being bagger at Publix has more respect these days

        -It's just a job kid deal with it

        -The industry needs to do one of two things; stop fiddling with the thin line and go forward or go back to that way it was. A flashlight in one hand and your set of keys in the other

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        • #5
          Runno Hiedo
          Murphy was an optomist.

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          • #6
            Be familiar with your country's standards of self defense before learning any "martial art."

            If you're British, find out what level of accountability you have, etc.

            Most self defense classes teach that you are in fear for your life from sudden attack. That... will usually not work in security, where your maiming people == liability.

            Other than that... the suggestions on "run" are very good for your company. Not so good for you.
            Some Kind of Commando Leader

            "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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            • #7
              LE style options.. Defensive Tactics, or PPCT. Easiest to learn, and effective, Defensive tactics.. covers alot of areas that are commonly approached with!
              Deputy Sheriff

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              • #8
                Gerbil voodoo.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mall Director View Post
                  LE style options.. Defensive Tactics, or PPCT. Easiest to learn, and effective, Defensive tactics.. covers alot of areas that are commonly approached with!
                  Mall Director, that is sound advice along with a regimem of regular calisthenics for at least an hour each and every day and work up a good sweat. If you are out of shape, check with your doctor before starting such a program and get a wellness annual physical examination. Ensure you maintain your weight by a proper diet and stay away from junk food and get at least seven to eight hours of sleep each 24-hour period.
                  Enjoy the day,
                  Bill

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Security Mike
                    Whats happening on Sep 30th?

                    Losing our back up officers and being subbed out to a 2nd party outfit. No back up no walking into something with out it. Proactive will now literally become %100 observe and report... period.

                    Answering to a consortium outfit that will run the show. Another words...

                    Maintenance and infrastructure company
                    My views, opinions and statements are my own. They are not of my company, affiliates or coworkers.

                    -Being bagger at Publix has more respect these days

                    -It's just a job kid deal with it

                    -The industry needs to do one of two things; stop fiddling with the thin line and go forward or go back to that way it was. A flashlight in one hand and your set of keys in the other

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                    • #11
                      I kind of like the upward blow to the nose with the heel of your hand. If he's still conscious enough to pick the bone splinters out of his nasal cavity then a firm straight blow to the same area of the solar plexus that you use to compress the lungs while performing the Heimlich maneuver with just your knuckles should take the fight out of him and put him into survival mode. Should neither of these two work I would use the suggestion that BC said. Feet don't fail me now.

                      THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
                      THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post
                        Most self defense classes teach that you are in fear for your life from sudden attack. That... will usually not work in security, where your maiming people == liability.
                        The tactics I was referring to are primarily, deflect, block, defend & escape holds... useful if the need ever arose (hopefully it never does) but being defensive moves & not attack/aggressive techniques would negate liability would it not?
                        "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give" - Winston Churchill

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                        • #13
                          I train 3 times a week in Koshindo Ju Jitsu and I have used my style on many many occasions. Ju Jitsu teaches you to couter attack never attack so it looks good from all parties watching especially camers.



                          Good luck with your choice.
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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=fryzie;36924]

                            "Yeh so im getting into security"; Your considering a security occupation? Applying for a job?

                            "and plan to do a lot of crowd controlling.": How did you come up with this plan? Where are the out-of-control crowds?

                            "What would be a good art to learn?"; I would think an employer would have a training program and requirements for physical crowd control.

                            Military, LE and Security Company crowd control isn't something new hires are assigned to right away. There is physical training, department/company policy and legal aspects to learn. Your employer should provide the proper answer to your question.

                            What is the name of the company you are considering that has crowd control as part of a job description? Companies "that I know of" don't want thier SO's involved in any event that causes liability problems. 'Observe, report, and call LE.'

                            I wish you well and good health in your endever.

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=mh892;36978]
                              Originally posted by fryzie View Post

                              "Yeh so im getting into security"; Your considering a security occupation? Applying for a job?

                              "and plan to do a lot of crowd controlling.": How did you come up with this plan? Where are the out-of-control crowds?

                              "What would be a good art to learn?"; I would think an employer would have a training program and requirements for physical crowd control.

                              Military, LE and Security Company crowd control isn't something new hires are assigned to right away. There is physical training, department/company policy and legal aspects to learn. Your employer should provide the proper answer to your question.

                              What is the name of the company you are considering that has crowd control as part of a job description? Companies "that I know of" don't want thier SO's involved in any event that causes liability problems. 'Observe, report, and call LE.'

                              I wish you well and good health in your endever.
                              "Crowd Controller" is a specific sub-license in Australia. They must be licensed to "control crowds."

                              Over here, they just call that a "security guard," or if there's not access control, an "event staff person."
                              Some Kind of Commando Leader

                              "Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law

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