private swat

[gcmc security part 2]

If they are, I feel sorry for the Govt. They looked terrible. Even there little pics of their training made my head hurt.

[locknid]

Without trying to sound negative, how much would you want to bet their "SWAT" guys are making $1/hr over minimum wage and had to buy their own uniforms/guns?

I think it matters on the state which you work in, the type of contracts which require special security units, and last the company. average security pay varies drastically between states anywhere from minimum wage to maybe even 15.00 an hour for the same type of job. I am also sure that the clients which require these special teams are willing to pay big bucks. I know that with my company specialized security requests or quick response is WAY more expensive then just the average standing post cost. This leads into the company aspect. A dick company would pay these specialized guards either the same as regular guards or just a small percent higher keeping the company profits high. A good company would pay high in order to keep good officers in the specialized unit.

Then there are those people who would just do it for the fun of it. I would be one of those if I won the lottery.

[Christopherstjo]

With all the reports about governmental mismanagement on the money that is supposed to be funneled down to local governments for terrorist training and duty equipment. I wonder if a "private swat" security force is not a more appropriate and practical solution.

[HospitalOfficer]

Last time I knew they had no Military contracts. I had a freind who worked for Whitestone and they called those guys the "Strike Force" which they use for Company Strike situations. Everyone I know says Whitestone is a very unorganized company who try to come off important. Most of the contracts they have are one man posts working in the Ghetto of Columbus with no back-up. I wouldn't work for them, but who am I

[Chucky]

Looks like the company I work for except they have very good PR people designing their web site. There are a lot of assumption photos and wording that the average person would assume that they were like the guys doing security in Iraq. The boat with the 3 actors in it cost an arm and a leg. The lease at the shooting gallery. I supposed that when we requalify and buy the range time as you buy the ally at a bowling center could be construed as they lease it 24/7 365. I'm surprised that they didn't have a picture of guys hanging out of a loach OC1 with machine guns. Although the trailer with the CB radio and police scanner was impressive.

[N. A. Corbier]

The boat was photoshopped.

Honestly, I can make any company look insanely good on their website and printed materials, so long as they are willing to pay some serious money (content writing is not cheap), are willing to give me five employees of my choosing, and sign a few waivers.

[Minneapolis Security]

Take a look at this company

http://www.avalonsecurity.com/

The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.

Name: SEMAN,DANIEL JOSEPH
DL Number (New Format) S55013544111
Date of Birth Feb 13 1958
Height 600
Weight 225



Company Profile
Daniel J Seman, a former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer founded Avalon Fortress Security Corporation in 1982. Through owning and operating this corporation, Mr. Seman provides licensed, bonded and insured premium security services in the state of Minnesota and throughout the United States of America.

Avalon Fortress Security Corporation's first client was KARE 11 Television in Golden Valley, Minnesota. Today, over 20 years later, they still remain a satisfied client: a testament to the strong active role Mr. Seman takes with all of his clients, whether local, national, or international.

Mr. Seman believes in strong communication with clients regarding security activities and situations, which is why he is on-call 24 hours a day. A majority of Avalon Fortress Security Corporation's clients expect security NOW, not later. Avalon Fortress Security Corporation delivers with the best proactive security services available, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.


Look at these photoshop hack jobs, look at the emblem on the balistic helmet:



Look at the special ops van in their yellow page ad, also photoshopped:





They also claim to have 5000 security guards: Ya, sure they do....

[BadBoynMD]

[QUOTE=Minneapolis Security;36561]http://www.avalonsecurity.com/

The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.

I know some police officers that are, deputized U.S. Marshal's and deputized D.E.A. Agent's.

[Minneapolis Security]

[QUOTE=BadBoynMD;36563]

http://www.avalonsecurity.com/

The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.

I know some police officers that are, deputized U.S. Marshal's and deputized D.E.A. Agent's.

That may very well be true, but are their law enforcement careers over at age 24? Seems weird being that the minimum age to become a police officer in most area's is 21.

[Black Caesar]

That may very well be true, but are their law enforcement careers over at age 24? Seems weird being that the minimum age to become a police officer in most area's is 21.

You might be reading too much into it. It says he's a former WAE (When Actually employed) Deputy marshal, I knew a couple guys who did that, it was a "way in" to the USMS when they were young when they did that, they stopped that program in '94 I believe. I even heard a guy say "its like being reserve police, only for the Marshals".

The part about him being a licensed police officer could mean that he's attended a police academy and/or worked/works are a reserve somewhere, which a lot of security company owners and employees do to enhance their marketability. It doesn't have to mean he "retired" from LE then started his company, he could have been doing several things at once...........

Or he could just be a lying crook of %^&*. Many people try to hype their credentials.

Just saying we don't know .

[N. A. Corbier]

You know, when I shop a patch onto a uniform cause my client is too cheap to actually send me pics of real people in real uniforms... I tend to replace ALL the patches, and at least apply some skillz to it.

Here are some things I have always found funny:
RGB Color 000 is Black, or "all the phosphors or LEDs are off." Here's a hint, folks: This color does not exist in nature, or if it does, you couldn't see it. Clothes, patches, etc have shadows on them. They have texture.

That's how you can tell that the Whitestone Group's patrol car was real, the emblem actually was placed over a side trim. Whereas the van, a bus I've seen, etc... There's no rivets underneath the logo. There's no lighting effects on the logos. etc.

You know, I'm almost tempted to pick an unlicensed state (to avoid legal problems) and make a site for a security company. Then invite people to critique it and tell me what's real (Well, nothing, but you know), what's shopped, and what's hilarious.

However, on the van... There's a few things to remember: Those cans at auction are cheap. Its a rolling billboard, and people will invest in silly things. I know a security firm in Florida that has a bus. A full sized Greyhound bus, for their central operations gimmick.

While it looks shopped, look at the hood. Whoever did that, got the colors right, etc, is actually pretty good. Or, the truck is real.

[Chucky]

Intresting just the other day I was schooled by our UPS guy that their trucks are designed just for UPS and are expected to be in service for 20 years. I mentioned that it would make a good camper and he told me that will never happen cause they without exception are destroyed. It's an image thing I guess.
The one in the Avalon ad sure looks like UPS brown and design.

[N. A. Corbier]

Intresting just the other day I was schooled by our UPS guy that their trucks are designed just for UPS and are expected to be in service for 20 years. I mentioned that it would make a good camper and he told me that will never happen cause they without exception are destroyed. It's an image thing I guess.
The one in the Avalon ad sure looks like UPS brown and design.

Its a standard body, the one in the Avalon ad. If you've got the cash, you can buy purpose specific trucks like that.

[Minneapolis Security]

You might be reading too much into it. It says he's a former WAE (When Actually employed) Deputy marshal, I knew a couple guys who did that, it was a "way in" to the USMS when they were young when they did that, they stopped that program in '94 I believe. I even heard a guy say "its like being reserve police, only for the Marshals".

The part about him being a licensed police officer could mean that he's attended a police academy and/or worked/works are a reserve somewhere, which a lot of security company owners and employees do to enhance their marketability. It doesn't have to mean he "retired" from LE then started his company, he could have been doing several things at once...........

Or he could just be a lying crook of %^&*. Many people try to hype their credentials.

Just saying we don't know .

I looked into this, he had a very short lived career with the Somerset, Wi. Police Department. Under 1 year, he was terminated for leaving his fellow officer who was in a fight with someone. Not exactly something to brag about.

[The Hussard]

the truck on the avalon ad look like a freightliner or a sterling truck it doesnt look like a ups truck