If they are, I feel sorry for the Govt. They looked terrible. Even there little pics of their training made my head hurt.
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Originally posted by bigshotceo View PostWithout trying to sound negative, how much would you want to bet their "SWAT" guys are making $1/hr over minimum wage and had to buy their own uniforms/guns?
Then there are those people who would just do it for the fun of it. I would be one of those if I won the lottery.
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Last time I knew they had no Military contracts. I had a freind who worked for Whitestone and they called those guys the "Strike Force" which they use for Company Strike situations. Everyone I know says Whitestone is a very unorganized company who try to come off important. Most of the contracts they have are one man posts working in the Ghetto of Columbus with no back-up. I wouldn't work for them, but who am I"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."
- General George Patton Jr
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Looks like the company I work for except they have very good PR people designing their web site. There are a lot of assumption photos and wording that the average person would assume that they were like the guys doing security in Iraq. The boat with the 3 actors in it cost an arm and a leg. The lease at the shooting gallery. I supposed that when we requalify and buy the range time as you buy the ally at a bowling center could be construed as they lease it 24/7 365. I'm surprised that they didn't have a picture of guys hanging out of a loach OC1 with machine guns. Although the trailer with the CB radio and police scanner was impressive.THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
http://www.boondocksaints.com/
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The boat was photoshopped.
Honestly, I can make any company look insanely good on their website and printed materials, so long as they are willing to pay some serious money (content writing is not cheap), are willing to give me five employees of my choosing, and sign a few waivers.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Take a look at this company
http://www.avalonsecurity.com/
The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.
Name: SEMAN,DANIEL JOSEPH
DL Number (New Format) S55013544111
Date of Birth Feb 13 1958
Height 600
Weight 225
Company Profile
Daniel J Seman, a former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer founded Avalon Fortress Security Corporation in 1982. Through owning and operating this corporation, Mr. Seman provides licensed, bonded and insured premium security services in the state of Minnesota and throughout the United States of America.
Avalon Fortress Security Corporation's first client was KARE 11 Television in Golden Valley, Minnesota. Today, over 20 years later, they still remain a satisfied client: a testament to the strong active role Mr. Seman takes with all of his clients, whether local, national, or international.
Mr. Seman believes in strong communication with clients regarding security activities and situations, which is why he is on-call 24 hours a day. A majority of Avalon Fortress Security Corporation's clients expect security NOW, not later. Avalon Fortress Security Corporation delivers with the best proactive security services available, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Look at these photoshop hack jobs, look at the emblem on the balistic helmet:
Look at the special ops van in their yellow page ad, also photoshopped:
They also claim to have 5000 security guards: Ya, sure they do....Last edited by Minneapolis Security; 08-12-2007, 09:39 PM.ATTN. SPECOPS AND GECKO45 my secret username is CIDDECEP and I am your S2. My authorization code is Six Wun Quebec Oscar Fife. Your presence here is tactically dangerous and compromises our overall mission parameter. Cease and desist all activity on this board. Our “enemies” are deft at computer hacking and may trace you back to our primary locale. You have forced me to compromise my situation to protect your vulnerable flank. This issue will be addressed later.
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[QUOTE=Minneapolis Security;36561]http://www.avalonsecurity.com/
The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.
I know some police officers that are, deputized U.S. Marshal's and deputized D.E.A. Agent's."Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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[QUOTE=BadBoynMD;36563]Originally posted by Minneapolis Security View Posthttp://www.avalonsecurity.com/
The owner is 49 years old and started the company in 1982 according to their website. I wonder how someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at the ripe old age of 24, or more importantly, why someone is a "former W.A.E. Deputy United States Marshal and a licensed police officer" at 24 years of age, seems like an awful short career in law enforcement.
I know some police officers that are, deputized U.S. Marshal's and deputized D.E.A. Agent's.ATTN. SPECOPS AND GECKO45 my secret username is CIDDECEP and I am your S2. My authorization code is Six Wun Quebec Oscar Fife. Your presence here is tactically dangerous and compromises our overall mission parameter. Cease and desist all activity on this board. Our “enemies” are deft at computer hacking and may trace you back to our primary locale. You have forced me to compromise my situation to protect your vulnerable flank. This issue will be addressed later.
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The part about him being a licensed police officer could mean that he's attended a police academy and/or worked/works are a reserve somewhere, which a lot of security company owners and employees do to enhance their marketability. It doesn't have to mean he "retired" from LE then started his company, he could have been doing several things at once...........
Or he could just be a lying crook of %^&*. Many people try to hype their credentials.
Just saying we don't know.
~Black Caesar~
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You know, when I shop a patch onto a uniform cause my client is too cheap to actually send me pics of real people in real uniforms... I tend to replace ALL the patches, and at least apply some skillz to it.
Here are some things I have always found funny:
RGB Color 000 is Black, or "all the phosphors or LEDs are off." Here's a hint, folks: This color does not exist in nature, or if it does, you couldn't see it. Clothes, patches, etc have shadows on them. They have texture.
That's how you can tell that the Whitestone Group's patrol car was real, the emblem actually was placed over a side trim. Whereas the van, a bus I've seen, etc... There's no rivets underneath the logo. There's no lighting effects on the logos. etc.
You know, I'm almost tempted to pick an unlicensed state (to avoid legal problems) and make a site for a security company. Then invite people to critique it and tell me what's real (Well, nothing, but you know), what's shopped, and what's hilarious.
However, on the van... There's a few things to remember: Those cans at auction are cheap. Its a rolling billboard, and people will invest in silly things. I know a security firm in Florida that has a bus. A full sized Greyhound bus, for their central operations gimmick.
While it looks shopped, look at the hood. Whoever did that, got the colors right, etc, is actually pretty good. Or, the truck is real.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Intresting just the other day I was schooled by our UPS guy that their trucks are designed just for UPS and are expected to be in service for 20 years. I mentioned that it would make a good camper and he told me that will never happen cause they without exception are destroyed. It's an image thing I guess.
The one in the Avalon ad sure looks like UPS brown and design.THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
http://www.boondocksaints.com/
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Originally posted by Chucky View PostIntresting just the other day I was schooled by our UPS guy that their trucks are designed just for UPS and are expected to be in service for 20 years. I mentioned that it would make a good camper and he told me that will never happen cause they without exception are destroyed. It's an image thing I guess.
The one in the Avalon ad sure looks like UPS brown and design.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Originally posted by Black Caesar View PostYou might be reading too much into it. It says he's a former WAE (When Actually employed) Deputy marshal, I knew a couple guys who did that, it was a "way in" to the USMS when they were young when they did that, they stopped that program in '94 I believe. I even heard a guy say "its like being reserve police, only for the Marshals".
The part about him being a licensed police officer could mean that he's attended a police academy and/or worked/works are a reserve somewhere, which a lot of security company owners and employees do to enhance their marketability. It doesn't have to mean he "retired" from LE then started his company, he could have been doing several things at once...........
Or he could just be a lying crook of %^&*. Many people try to hype their credentials.
Just saying we don't know.
I looked into this, he had a very short lived career with the Somerset, Wi. Police Department. Under 1 year, he was terminated for leaving his fellow officer who was in a fight with someone. Not exactly something to brag about.ATTN. SPECOPS AND GECKO45 my secret username is CIDDECEP and I am your S2. My authorization code is Six Wun Quebec Oscar Fife. Your presence here is tactically dangerous and compromises our overall mission parameter. Cease and desist all activity on this board. Our “enemies” are deft at computer hacking and may trace you back to our primary locale. You have forced me to compromise my situation to protect your vulnerable flank. This issue will be addressed later.
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