applications for security why so long? Part 2

[Bern Wheaton]

Well now after 80 pages of the application, two hours of movies ,getting my eyes check and checking weight, doing another three test, and driving around to get more paper work I should be ready for the pee test and finger printing which we do our selfs! Then our pretty uniforms .Out of the 6 guys that were in my class I am ahead of them all! Funny thing is I know one guy from LP work ,But he will be going to another job site then I will be. It has taken a week to do this app!

[N. A. Corbier]

Is this for Alliuq or however its spelled? It sounds less like a security job and more like a government "police" job where they make you a civilian MP for a government facility.

Also, with atll that testing, if its not a government contractor... They should have very high retention rates, to offset the amount of money they spend on recruiting/processing applicants.

Most idiots would drop out of that insanity, leaving only those who want to work there.

[ValleyOne]

^^^ thinking the same dang thing. I would be keenly interested in knowing who this employer is.

[LPGuy]

80-page application? I'm having trouble imagining that this could be possible. What company or type of position is this for?

I filled out very extensive background packets when I tested for various police departments, and the longest one was 38 pages.

[Bern Wheaton]

Out of the 66,000 security companys they are on top of the heap.

We do wear paramiltary sweaters.Only thing I found enteresting for this security company.

It is about as close to being a police app as you can get sense they want the grade your grad. 6th grade ,jr high. What your parents have health wise down to the nut test 435 questions later.I died of laughter at the question if you were a cross dresser and took drugs! And this was the good part you had to update your own security book!

[BadBoynMD]

Out of the 66,000 security companys they are on top of the heap.

We do wear paramiltary sweaters.Only thing I found enteresting for this security company.

It is about as close to being a police app as you can get sense they want the grade your grad. 6th grade ,jr high. What your parents have health wise down to the nut test 435 questions later.I died of laughter at the question if you were a cross dresser and took drugs! And this was the good part you had to update your own security book!

Starting to sound like Wackenhut's Special U.S. Marshal's position.

[LPGuy]

Starting to sound like BS, if you ask me.

[N. A. Corbier]

Sounds like one of the GSA "police" guard contracts, either through Alliuq (however its spelled, I'm not Inuit...) or Wackenhut Government Services.

As far as paramilitary sweaters... I wore one?

[Chucky]

My position required a Top secret clearance and the questions booklet was no where near 80 pages. I think Kurt will concur with that. In fact I have never seen a comic book 80 pages long.
I think LPGuy is on to something. Transvestites and drugs what's wrong with that? Unless Steven king is the owner I find it all a bit to swallow.

[N. A. Corbier]

Considering that several states make it illegal to discriminate against sexual orientation, asking "do you dress up in clothes of the opposite sex" is a violation. Asking such questions can also determine gender, depending on wording.

My Secret clearance application was 1-2 pages and a print card forwarded to DISA.

[LPGuy]

Even if such an application existed, Bern Wheaton is clearly wasting his time.

I can't read one paragraph of his writing before my eyes burn. Anyone trying to navigate through 80 pages of such a phonetical nightmare would help that monster application make haste into the closest shredder.

[Chucky]

I guess if it was for a Nuke plant then I suppose it would be pretty through. But I still can't imagine what amount of schooling and on sight training it would involve. 10 questions per page would be 800 questions. It has been a very long time since basic training but if I remember right that test was only about 3 hours for the written portion. A little side note the guy next to me was failing at the half way point break. The Training Staff SGT pulled me aside and informed me that cheating was a Article 15 offence and would never imply that I ever do it but on the other hand if PVT whatshisname fails then I will be his personal coach during his 8 week recycle. Good Grief!! While needless to say the PVT aced the second half and we both moved on.

[CorpSec]

Even if such an application existed, Bern Wheaton is clearly wasting his time.

I can't read one paragraph of his writing before my eyes burn. Anyone trying to navigate through 80 pages of such a phonetical nightmare would help that monster application make haste into the closest shredder.

I second that. Security Officers should take measures to make sure their writing is up to par. Granted, a web post is not a report. But I find it hard to believe that someone with such a poor grasp of simple grammar and spelling writes reports that top notch.

We all have our weaknesses. The way I look at the written word is that people that have never met me will judge my competence and intelligence by it. We all probably do it with each post we read. We make determinations about other board members skill and professionalism by the strength of their written word.

I would encourage anyone who knows that writing is one of their weaknesses to take the time to improve that skill. If nothing else, utilize technology such as spell check.

[ValleyOne]

What's the chances he has an application confused with one of those take home personality tests?

[Bern Wheaton]

lmao ,gees ,for some reason I wonder how you all ever got into security,but let me guess, they had simple test for simple people. You city boys are funny!
I hate to have you behind me or in front! All you care about is how your spelling is .But had they got to hire the handicap don't they!? Your jobs must be for the easy less limit brain cells.