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  • Let's talk overtime pay for a minute...

    Okay, I don't know how other Security companies run their payroll/ scheduling dept., but how many here regularly (or at least semi-regularly) work more than a 40 hour week?

    My last paycheck was for the 2 week period to ending 7/2; Figuratively, my next paycheck on 8/16 should amount to no less than 116 hours, 36 of those being at overtime pay scale...

    How do you all deal with overtime, insomuch as you barely wake up, have a cuppa Joe, and then the phone rings; It's your Boss/supervisor/yadayadayada... wanting you to come in on your day off or 2 hours early...
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  • #2
    At BHR, I typically work a 36 hr week. Every other weekend the shifts are entirely sign-up. So either I sign up for a couple OT shifts or I dont get my 40hr week. (12hr shifts, 3on 3off, 3on 5off)

    Typically when called for OT shifts I will only pick it up if there is no other option. If there is one officer on duty and they are looking for a second, I will evaluate whether I feel Im truly needed or not. If I know there has been a lot of activity on the units I might come in, but usually not. I value time off more than OT.

    Sometimes I am called in to sit in at court. Since Im only going to be there for a few hours tops I will typically come in for that.
    "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
    "The Curve" 1998

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    • #3
      OT is always available. I am a " command staff member" so am always on call. Hours are never the same for me. We are paid every two weeks with the standard 40 hours per week (80 hrs. min.). But almost always, there is plenty of hours to be had. We are paid for court and other related responsibilities as well.

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      Hank
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      • #4
        Over time is always coming around. If the hours are compatible some of us take it. But the last audit done says it's been over done. (huh?) The state dropping security and maintenance and contracting out to some company will no doubt effect that. The problem is our PT officers don't want the OT so the full time ones take it. Not that we mind the extra on the pay check. Things are looking dismal. Come the end of September we will loose our Supervisors hence no more back up. We will be on our own in a very proactive environment. The OT according to the new out fit will be strictly controlled.
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        • #5
          I am on sced for 45 hours a week, thats 5 OT a week normal sced, so thats 90 hrs per pay period 10 @ OT, however i sometimes do events like this past weekend i had put in 19 hrs OT on top of my regular hours giving me 109 hours on check 29 of which are OT, last payperiod i had goten 6hrs on top of my normal hours making 16hrs OT.
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          • #6
            Well the company i work for seems to love the idea of phoning you up when you're off, or even on holiday to ask you to do overtime.

            I typically work an average of 53.5 hours a week, and any hours i do over that on the site i am on are at the normal base rate for the site i am on. At the moment its sort of expected (politely of course) that we try and cover as many shifts as we can while we're a man down, and have a man on holiday -which amounts to 3 people having to do the work of 5 (260 hours a week).

            We don't get extra for working overtime... period...unless of course you're one of the select few (Secret Squirrels) or you're an absolute c%%t to the head office then they seem to bend over backwards to give you a little extra.

            This is a big bone on contention to me... our pay rate sucks, sucks big time.

            I could rant big time about this... but i'd need pages.

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            • #7
              WE have a minimum staff of 3 officers on a night shift, and 7 on the day shift. MAny of our officers are retired and only want minimal hours, others want as many hours as they can get. Add to this that the Supervisors want to get us down to 32 hours a week for full time officers to cut out the overtime. The result? I have had scheduled overtime every week since I joined the company. usually only 5 hours a week, but sometimes as many as 20 when something happens to one of our officers.

              The schedule is posted where we all can see, and if there is an open shift, you simply have to write your name in. I have yet to see offered shifts not get filled so that the supervisor has to assign it to someone. I have been called in twice for emergencies mostly because I live not far from the site and can get there in a hurry if needed.

              Me? I like the scheduled overtime.

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              • #8
                I work 12 hour shifts, paid biweekly, 48 one week and 36 the next. Anytime another EMT takes a day off the rest of us have to move to cover. For most of June and all of July I was working 60-72 hours a week or more. We had people sick, in hospital and on vacation. The shifts had to be covered. I don't mind overtime at all. It helps pay the bills. I work one night of overtime, my electric bill is paid. Another overtime night and my cable/internet bill is paid. And so on. When things slow down, as they are starting to now, I'll get plenty of time at home with my woman and our cats. Until then I grab what hours I can. I'm working a night for someone Sunday evening. That's my car note paid right there.
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                • #9
                  OT is a no no at my hotels. After 40 hours Quebec labour law requires them to pay us time and a half. They won't. Some guys (off the record) will work & "bank" the hours. So at a later day they take a day off & I still pay them.
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                  • #10
                    One thing the private sector is unable to take advantage of is Comp Time (Compensation Time). Cops and most government employees I am familiar with have this option.

                    For those that don't know, in lieu of OT pay you can take the hours you work over 40 as comp time. The comp time hours then can be used towards time off. I would honestly rather be able to use this option as opposed to OT.

                    Sometimes.

                    But that's just me...
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                    • #11
                      I am lucky in that I am in management but still get overtime. I also get the option of comp time if I want it. I also schedule myself. I love the over $40 an hour OT, but I don't screw the Company over and work unneeded OT. But, I generally do get an average of another 8-10 grand a year for OT, plus get a fair amount of comp time as well.

                      As a supervisor, I wish I had more guys that liked OT. The vast majority of the staff won't even pick up the phone when called for OT and occasionally need to be forced to work it. A couple of guys want to call the shots on their OT such as "I'll work day shift weekend OT, but nothing else". Come time for the raises, I remember who pitches in and helps and who doesn't.

                      It does make it nice for the select few that like overtime since they are able to pad their paychecks quite a bit over the course of the year. I had an officer making $45k a year stretch that into about $60K last year because of his willingness to work OT.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ValleyOne View Post
                        One thing the private sector is unable to take advantage of is Comp Time (Compensation Time). Cops and most government employees I am familiar with have this option.

                        For those that don't know, in lieu of OT pay you can take the hours you work over 40 as comp time. The comp time hours then can be used towards time off. I would honestly rather be able to use this option as opposed to OT.

                        Sometimes.

                        But that's just me...
                        Our staff has comp time. I dont know if we get it or not. They are union and we are not; however; I hear that whatever the unionized employees get, we get too.
                        "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
                        "The Curve" 1998

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                        • #13
                          It is an in house operation for a large Company headquartered in the Twin Cities. We hire very infrequently since our pay and benefits means that officers rarely leave unless they retire or get terminated.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ValleyOne View Post
                            One thing the private sector is unable to take advantage of is Comp Time (Compensation Time). Cops and most government employees I am familiar with have this option.

                            For those that don't know, in lieu of OT pay you can take the hours you work over 40 as comp time. The comp time hours then can be used towards time off. I would honestly rather be able to use this option as opposed to OT.

                            Sometimes.

                            But that's just me...
                            Government employment 4 the Win lol.

                            The College District gives us the choice of OT or comp, younger officers then to take the OT, older officers usually take the comp. I'm litterally middle aged in my job (I worked it out on paper, I'm 33, the median age of a college police employee in this district is 33 and there are about 111 of us, so statistically 55 are older than me and the other 55 are younger than me ), but I prefer the comp, it saves me having to use anything else (Vacation, extenuating circumstances, sick, holiday ect ect)

                            On a related note, since Campus police is a 24/7/365 operation, someone always have to be here, even when the campuses are closed.
                            So even if its a holiday we still have to work. If the holiday falls on one of our "natural" off days, we still get the holiday to use later (I haven't used my 4th of July holiday, so next month I'm going to take me a 3 day weekend sometime). If you have to work that day, you can either take 12 hours comp time for the 8 hour shift, or take the pay as Double Time.

                            Inclement weather days are treated just like holidays, I got stuck at the college for 17 hours once because of a REALLY bad snow and got paid for 34 hours. I was paying child support then and prayed for more snow

                            Lots of my co-workers volunteer for holidays lol, its easy money. We get 11 days for Christmas Break and the Lt. that handles the schedule has to slice it up so that everyone who wants it can get a little of the DT pie (also because over time is preyty rare now, we are actually close to full staff nowadays). Me, I just take the 11 days off.
                            Last edited by Black Caesar; 08-10-2007, 05:46 AM.
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                            • #15
                              I love OT, I like having the extra little money to splurge on things like my flying etc. Plus I worked so much of my life where I had to do more than 40 to survive that when I started only working 40 I didn't know what to do with myself! ::sigh:: That all ends after next week, no more OT pay for me, dang salary lol.
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