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  • jeff194307
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    These systems have their place, but at colleges and shopping malls? Most of these places have more then enough work to keep the officers very busy. Why add another task??

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  • Chucky
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    Did this REALLY happen where you worked? I've heard versions of this story for years & always thought it was an Old Wives Tale or urban myth!
    I'm glad that you also heard the same story as I did to and I think it was posted somewhere on this forum about 5 months ago.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    Did this REALLY happen where you worked? I've heard versions of this story for years & always thought it was an Old Wives Tale or urban myth!
    I had one post where there were detex keys within 10 feet of each other. The company paid per key hit.

    Key 1: Start of Tour Key at Guard Shack.

    Key 2: Fence Gate next to Guard Shack where client (government) owned vehicle was.

    Key 3: 150 feet away at entrance to Coast Guard Air Station. (Empty USCG Gate House)

    etc.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by alamedaad View Post
    Another guard at a site I used to work at got caught peeling the Detex points off the wall (The buttons were stuck on with little tabs of 2 sided tape) and attaching them to a large piece of plywood. He would then sit in the office playing XBox and hit the buttons all night, without ever doing a patrol. (One man shift . . .)Then, about half an hour before the end of his shift, he would run around and replace all the buttons. He finally got caught when one of the day shifters accidentally came in early, before he had time to replace the buttons and caught him. He ratted him out to the Director and in short order the guy had a lot more time to legitimately play XBox . . .
    Did this REALLY happen where you worked? I've heard versions of this story for years & always thought it was an Old Wives Tale or urban myth!

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  • Investigation
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    Originally posted by UtahProtectionForce View Post
    a seroius note though there is this epoxy stuff you can use to secure them, that wont soft to unsecure unless you use a certain chemical, my company uses it to assure kids dont go stealing those little buggers...
    Kids are smart these days and can find a solvent that will remove them.

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by Chucky View Post
    This peaked my curiosity so I hired a physic detective and she said that she sees a young security guy removing them one by one over the last 26 years so that he won't have to key them. Hmmm I wonder who that person could be?
    Not the same security guy who "accidentally" dropped the Detex clock in the pool, was it?

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  • FrankW438
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    I agree that most of the time there is a reason for the Detex key or button or cardreader to be located at a given location (doors, windows, vulnerable area, gates, etc.) but I have seen some really poor placement of keys in the past. In one small manufacturing facility I used to patrol from time to time, we had about 25 or 28 keys on a 45-minute patrol. There were two keys at then end of the tour that three feet apart on a wall. There was absolutely no reason I could see for placing two keys right next to each other, other than to bilk the client out of a little extra money.

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  • alamedaad
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    Another guard at a site I used to work at got caught peeling the Detex points off the wall (The buttons were stuck on with little tabs of 2 sided tape) and attaching them to a large piece of plywood. He would then sit in the office playing XBox and hit the buttons all night, without ever doing a patrol. (One man shift . . .)Then, about half an hour before the end of his shift, he would run around and replace all the buttons. He finally got caught when one of the day shifters accidentally came in early, before he had time to replace the buttons and caught him. He ratted him out to the Director and in short order the guy had a lot more time to legitimately play XBox . . .

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  • UtahProtectionForce
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    lol chucky i just spilt mt.dew all over my state computer... because of the post above me.. i supposed youll have to owe the state a new computer :P



    on another note i have heard stories of kids stealing the chips, but i have also heard they fall off in the weather..


    on a seroius note though there is this epoxy stuff you can use to secure them, that wont soft to unsecure unless you use a certain chemical, my company uses it to assure kids dont go stealing those little buggers...

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  • Chucky
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    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
    We used to have the Detex keys when I first started in this hotel 26 years ago. However the "kids" stole them & they were never replaced. (I swear it was the kids )
    This peaked my curiosity so I hired a physic detective and she said that she sees a young security guy removing them one by one over the last 26 years so that he won't have to key them. Hmmm I wonder who that person could be?

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
    I am pretty sure that it was those darn kids
    Me too & that's the story I'm going to stick too!!

    In Montreal the fire department is not allowed to strike. They have a militant union & everytime they are in negociations they launch strong pressure tatics. The past few times during negociations the fire trucks & fire stations have been plastered with union stickers. The union claims, with straight faces, that it is members of the public that are doing it, not their members!

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  • CorpSec
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    I am pretty sure that it was those darn kids

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by CorpSec View Post
    It is nice to know that the "kids" in Canada are the same as down here. When I worked contract, the kids would steal the ToCo chips all the time!
    Most of the kids that come to the hotel are from the US BTW are you SURE it was the kids? (And not some Officers who realized they wpuld not be replaced?)

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  • CorpSec
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    It is nice to know that the "kids" in Canada are the same as down here. When I worked contract, the kids would steal the ToCo chips all the time!

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  • HotelSecurity
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    We used to have the Detex keys when I first started in this hotel 26 years ago. However the "kids" stole them & they were never replaced. (I swear it was the kids )

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