Where are those Detex Keys/ToCo buttons?

[copelandamuffy]

Suppose on your 1st night as a new Gaurd, part of your duties is to do a
patrol of a good size warehouse. There are 12 key stations. No one has taken
the time to show you where they are.

Here is, I hope good advice

Look for exit door, garage doors, entrance doors, boiler rooms, mechanical rooms, rooms where chemicals and paints are stored. Top of stairs, bottom of stairs. Dollars to cents, you check these areas, and you will find 50-75 %
of the key stations your looking for.

[SEO_09]

I hate Detex rounds. I had to do them when I was on watch on board my Training Ship at my Merchant Marine Academy. They would hide those damn things everywhere. And half the time you couldn't find them.

[copelandamuffy]

In my original post, I might add the excutive area is a good place you'll find a key station.

Also find out why your going into these areas. Most time at exit and entrances is to rattle doors to insure they are closed. Boiler room is to insure
that the boiler are running in winter, or no natural gas leak. Kitchen is make sure the ovens are off. Other key stations are to make sure somone woking alone is okay.

I have no problem doing rounds with a wand. It it proof that I was actually on a patrol. It my self-insurance that protects me from being accused of
perhaps negelecting to going to level four of the west garage, when my little
friend the wand once downloaded into a computer said at 0500 hours I was
in fact at level four of the west garage

[HotelSecurity]

I'd probably look for a new company. If the company sent you to a new place without even this basic training, I'd be really worried what else they didn't tell me

[copelandamuffy]

Hotel Security:
Things have gotten better over the years, but still there are a lot
of places that training is non-existant. On the Job training is costly to
most Security Guard Companies. I have lost count how many times I had to fly solo on a new account.

Here is the wand, here is the Master key, now go find the key stations

Perhaps it my 35 years of being in this business, but I am pretty good at
finding a key station.

Also might I add, if your doing an interior tour, look along the outer walls. And for some reason, key stations seem to be found outside restrooms

[N. A. Corbier]

From a logistical standpoint, if I were a client and the company kept sending me guards that couldn't hit their keys the first night, I'd find out what I'm paying for. Because its obvious that they're not trianing, and most large guard firms specify "X amount of hours of training" are part of each new hire.

So, where's the training? I'm paying for it, they better provide it.

[HotelSecurity]

We used to have the Detex keys when I first started in this hotel 26 years ago. However the "kids" stole them & they were never replaced. (I swear it was the kids )

[CorpSec]

It is nice to know that the "kids" in Canada are the same as down here. When I worked contract, the kids would steal the ToCo chips all the time!

[HotelSecurity]

It is nice to know that the "kids" in Canada are the same as down here. When I worked contract, the kids would steal the ToCo chips all the time!

Most of the kids that come to the hotel are from the US BTW are you SURE it was the kids? (And not some Officers who realized they wpuld not be replaced?)

[CorpSec]

I am pretty sure that it was those darn kids

[HotelSecurity]

I am pretty sure that it was those darn kids

Me too & that's the story I'm going to stick too!!

In Montreal the fire department is not allowed to strike. They have a militant union & everytime they are in negociations they launch strong pressure tatics. The past few times during negociations the fire trucks & fire stations have been plastered with union stickers. The union claims, with straight faces, that it is members of the public that are doing it, not their members!

[Chucky]

We used to have the Detex keys when I first started in this hotel 26 years ago. However the "kids" stole them & they were never replaced. (I swear it was the kids )

This peaked my curiosity so I hired a physic detective and she said that she sees a young security guy removing them one by one over the last 26 years so that he won't have to key them. Hmmm I wonder who that person could be?

[UtahProtectionForce]

lol chucky i just spilt mt.dew all over my state computer... because of the post above me.. i supposed youll have to owe the state a new computer :P



on another note i have heard stories of kids stealing the chips, but i have also heard they fall off in the weather..


on a seroius note though there is this epoxy stuff you can use to secure them, that wont soft to unsecure unless you use a certain chemical, my company uses it to assure kids dont go stealing those little buggers...

[alamedaad]

Another guard at a site I used to work at got caught peeling the Detex points off the wall (The buttons were stuck on with little tabs of 2 sided tape) and attaching them to a large piece of plywood. He would then sit in the office playing XBox and hit the buttons all night, without ever doing a patrol. (One man shift . . .)Then, about half an hour before the end of his shift, he would run around and replace all the buttons. He finally got caught when one of the day shifters accidentally came in early, before he had time to replace the buttons and caught him. He ratted him out to the Director and in short order the guy had a lot more time to legitimately play XBox . . .

[FrankW438]

I agree that most of the time there is a reason for the Detex key or button or cardreader to be located at a given location (doors, windows, vulnerable area, gates, etc.) but I have seen some really poor placement of keys in the past. In one small manufacturing facility I used to patrol from time to time, we had about 25 or 28 keys on a 45-minute patrol. There were two keys at then end of the tour that three feet apart on a wall. There was absolutely no reason I could see for placing two keys right next to each other, other than to bilk the client out of a little extra money.