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  • The Police actually realized the hard job we have!

    It's almost 6a.m. I work 3p.m. to 11p.m. at the hotel but had to stay because it's prom season & the 250 kids attending the dance took about 15 to 20 rooms in the hotel & invited all 250 up to visit them!

    At one point while the dance was still going on I had about 50 of them in front of the hotel, outside. (It is now illegal to smoke anywhere in an hotel in Quebec except a smoking guest room). Some of the kids were drinking beers in public. I chased them off of my property. They went onto the sidewalk in front. Since I have no authority on the sidewalk but other guests were still complaining I called the police. 3 or 4 cars were sent. The police had been at the hotel for 3 nights now because of the graduation after parties. One of the cops starts to give me attitude. (asking me why we accept kids, like we can tell when someone makes a reservation over the internet that they are a kid). Parents even rent rooms under their names for the kids.

    As the police were still in front they got a call for a noise complaint up on a floor. The guy I stayed to help & I had already dealt with 3 or 4 noise complaints. When we get to the floor the cop says to me "we don't work for the Holiday Inn & can't stay here all night answering noise complaints" I reminded him that the hotel had not called for this noise complaint, a guest must have. He continued. I got mad. I turned to my partner & said loud enough for the cop to hear " it's bad enough we have to deal with the crap from the kids, now were getting it from the cops". I walked away.

    The police had to come back 2 more times. Once for an aggressive girl, whose boyfriend they arrested for assault on the police & once to help us throw out about 20 people from a room where only 4 were registered.

    At the end of the night (morning actually) the cop I had trouble with told my partner, "tell your partner I'm sorry, I didn't realize how tough your job was"
    Last edited by HotelSecurity; 06-28-2007, 06:01 AM.
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    It's good to hear that he finally realized what was truely going on.
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    • #3
      I suppose 249 of those kids were from Ontario and Vermont

      Guess your night went really fast.
      Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.
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      • #4
        Sounds like the Copper was having a great night too, I'm sure an S/O and an LEO's frustrations can go both ways and clash in the middle somewhere. Gotta love the kiddies and their attitudes, especially after a few brewskies and shots to be cool .
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eric View Post
          I suppose 249 of those kids were from Ontario and Vermont

          Guess your night went really fast.
          No these were locals. We don't usually have problems with Vermonters. it's ones from Mass. that we have trouble with. During spring break we have 2 weekss back to back, one week Ontario kids & the next Boston kids!
          I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
          Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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          • #6
            Seems like there should be some sort of age min for kids unaccompanied by an adult. Or some sort of fire law prohibiting X amount of people in a room made for 4. There's a law for most any situation so I'm sure they must have one that prohibits what they are doing. The web site should plainly state no minors under 18 without an adult is permitted.
            THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
            THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chucky View Post
              Seems like there should be some sort of age min for kids unaccompanied by an adult. Or some sort of fire law prohibiting X amount of people in a room made for 4. There's a law for most any situation so I'm sure they must have one that prohibits what they are doing. The web site should plainly state no minors under 18 without an adult is permitted.
              We enforce a one exit door, 4 max in a room rule. This is when the problems start. The kids rent a room & sub-rent it to 30 others. When you try to find out who actually paid for it you have 30 people saying they did. This causes even more noise complaints on the floor. As for the parents. They arrive early in the afternoon & don't tell us the room is actually for the kids. When we catch them at 3a,m. we could call their parents but it is hard to do this when you are r3ceiving a noise complaint somewhere else in the hotel every 2 or 3 minutes!!

              The best solution is as some of the high end hotels do, don't rent to locals. We're a Holiday Inn
              I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
              Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
                We enforce a one exit door, 4 max in a room rule. This is when the problems start. The kids rent a room & sub-rent it to 30 others. When you try to find out who actually paid for it you have 30 people saying they did. This causes even more noise complaints on the floor. As for the parents. They arrive early in the afternoon & don't tell us the room is actually for the kids. When we catch them at 3a,m. we could call their parents but it is hard to do this when you are r3ceiving a noise complaint somewhere else in the hotel every 2 or 3 minutes!!
                Can you not look at the registry and see who checked out the room then find out who that is? If it is the parents, just say you are looking for Mr or Ms. (Last Name)

                The best solution is as some of the high end hotels do, don't rent to locals. We're a Holiday Inn
                We dont have that around here... and Im glad, sometimes when I just want a couple days away from home I'll check into a hotel.
                "Alright guys listen up, ya'll have probably heard this before, Jackson vs. Securiplex corporation; I am a private security officer, I have no State or governmental authority. I stand as an ordinary citizen. I have no right to; detain, interrogate or otherwise interfere with your personal property-... basically all that means is I'm a cop."-Officer Ernie
                "The Curve" 1998

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BHR Lawson View Post
                  Can you not look at the registry and see who checked out the room then find out who that is? If it is the parents, just say you are looking for Mr or Ms. (Last Name)

                  Our problem is we do not have lots of time to deal with the individual complaints. When the bars close at 03h00 we can get 6 or 7 complaints within 2 minutes. People complain when they hear a door slamming closed beside them at this time of day. If we spent the tiem investigating each case we would not be able to respond to the other complaints.

                  We dont have that around here... and Im glad, sometimes when I just want a couple days away from home I'll check into a hotel.
                  Sure... that's the reason why you rent an hotel room. Do you go to the ones that charge by the hour?
                  I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                  Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
                    Sure... that's the reason why you rent an hotel room. Do you go to the ones that charge by the hour?
                    That made me spew coffee all over rthe laptop. LOL

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
                      Sure... that's the reason why you rent an hotel room. Do you go to the ones that charge by the hour?
                      The minute.

                      Wait...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wilrobnson View Post
                        The minute.

                        Wait...
                        I should foreward you some of the many spams I get for certain pills & lotions
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HotelSecurity View Post
                          I should foreward you some of the many spams I get for certain pills & lotions
                          Which have you tested and recommend?

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                          • #14
                            It would be nice to see some sort of buddy system program in police departments on local fronts involving police and s/o's. It would likely increase healthy working relationships, professional conduct and corporation through direct understanding and firsthand experiences. Unfortunately, when the United States Dept of Justice reports that some 85% of police departments fail or refuse to work with front line s/o's, everyone suffers in the end.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Christopherstjo View Post
                              It would be nice to see some sort of buddy system program in police departments on local fronts involving police and s/o's. It would likely increase healthy working relationships, professional conduct and corporation through direct understanding and firsthand experiences. Unfortunately, when the United States Dept of Justice reports that some 85% of police departments fail or refuse to work with front line s/o's, everyone suffers in the end.
                              In Montreal we used to work closer together. Then they brought in the Community Policing where unless there is a criminal still on the scene of most crimes the police will not come to the scene. The victim has to go to the station to file a report. This is supposed to free up police to respond to urgent calls. Wjat it is doing is screwing with statistics. For example a small business owner is not going to close his store to go to the police station to report a minor shoplifting for example. In my case we wuld invite the police to the restaurant with us when they came to the hotel to complete a report. Since the new style policing has started I rarely see a police officer.
                              I enforce rules and regulations, not laws.
                              Security Officers. The 1st First Responders.

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