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  • sgtnewby
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    Let me get this straight...

    Come to work immediately.
    Stay on the clock.
    Leave with "me."

    Oh, man...

    The concept of, "You wanna fight me..." I've only had one employee get cocky like that, he got cocky with a supervisor while wearing his full uniform and firearm. That was the first time I unholstered since he put his hand on his gun while screaming about being relieved of duty. He stopped after he realized "woah, this white boy gonna shoot me."

    Some idiots in this profession seem to forget that they're armed with various weapons while getting all bad assed macho.
    We didn't carry any weapons, just cuffs, keys, and a flashlight. And, I was the subordinate sergeant, he was a "major." The quote "you wanna fight me" was actually " You wanna go outside and make something of this?" an in from my face.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Let me get this straight...

    Come to work immediately.
    Stay on the clock.
    Leave with "me."

    Oh, man...

    The concept of, "You wanna fight me..." I've only had one employee get cocky like that, he got cocky with a supervisor while wearing his full uniform and firearm. That was the first time I unholstered since he put his hand on his gun while screaming about being relieved of duty. He stopped after he realized "woah, this white boy gonna shoot me."

    Some idiots in this profession seem to forget that they're armed with various weapons while getting all bad assed macho.

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  • sgtnewby
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I know we are getting way off topic here but it seems that many of you have worked for TWC, why leave ? Was it that bad?

    Well, I got fired for "demoralizing the team." My slightly younger then me site supervisor had the hots for a female non-CPO officer working our account. We had a combination of CPO and non-CPO. She had recently been in a car accident and had her on pain killers that she was having a bad reaction to. I was the night shift sergeant, promoted by corporate after 3 months of employment. About an hour before my shift ended, she called in sick due to this reaction, (swelling of the face). She lived about 15 to 20 miles away, and it was unreasonable to ask her to drive to work in rush hour traffic with her eyes swelling shut. So I told her to take time off and get medical attention and my supervisor and I would find someone to cover her shift for the day. No big deal. When he came in, I told him what was going on and he called her at home and insisted that she drive into work. So, thinking she would lose her job if she didn't, she showed up barely able to see. She's lucky she didn't get killed just trying to get there. So at this point, he says to stay on the clock and he would take her home (she couldn't see to drive at all anymore). So I recomended, so as not to create overtime, he should stay, her place was on my way to my then girlfriends house, which is where I was going, and I just wanted to go and sleep now that the night was over. Make sense to me. He got mad and asked me if I wanted to go outside and fight him! I just said, ya know what, do what you want. A week later, my supervisor, and the account supervisor (there were several locations for the same client), were in overnight for testing the fire alarm systems (strobes & sirens). Mid-shift officers stayed late and night shift also participated (me included). The supervisor left at 4am. He comes back at 7am and says turn in you badge and do not return. I asked him why and he refused to tell me. So I went home and found out that my current employer was hiring security and in 3 months I was making more per hour with benne's then he was after working for TWC in 3 years! He actually did me a favor. I told my current employer what had happened and let them make up their own minds as to what they thought happened, and they ruled in my favor obviously, I've been there now for almost 5 years. Wackenhut-shmackenhut!

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  • GCMC Security
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I know we are getting way off topic here but it seems that many of you have worked for TWC, why leave ? Was it that bad?
    Still work for them and have for 2 years. Like any company there are good and bad points, you just have to weigh them. I know in this area I'm not gonna find a better paying one so here I stay.

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  • tlangsr
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I know we are getting way off topic here but it seems that many of you have worked for TWC, why leave ? Was it that bad?
    It wasn't bad I just found a job that paid more.

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  • Lawson
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I know we are getting way off topic here but it seems that many of you have worked for TWC, why leave ? Was it that bad?
    Personally, I enjoyed it for the most part. However; I just found a better job. I drive 90 less miles a day, I get $2-4 more an hour, I get a TON of benefits that TWC never offered, and just an overall nicer job.

    Our area manager (who I heard was just recently let go) was a tool. I worked my butt off (as supervisor of a site) making the client love us then our AM bitches me out for everything. We had a traffic problem where a lot of traffic was using our lot as a traffic thoroughfare so I had my swingshift wear CPO uniforms instead of yellow over black that we were assigned. It worked... worked REALLY well actually. So naturally I got my ass chewed.

    The AM made our site a CPO only site knowing there was only a limited amount of CPOs available so all our guys were working 50-70 hours a week, he kept sending me the most retarted CPOs he could come up with, and then started bitching me out that our officers were working too much Overtime.

    On top of that he was overall bad for business. There was a contract with the City of Tacoma Police that we went out for, however because he did not believe in better outfitting us with equipment and training we could not compete well for it.

    We were offered a contract from the City of Kent (Police I believe) to provide assistance with a suspected protest/riot, but this manager turned it down because they wanted armed officers and he said we would only do it unarmed.

    Time and time again we lost out on contracts, and pissed off clients because of his actions. I no longer saw any advancement opportunity with him around so I packed my bags and GTFO of there.
    Last edited by Lawson; 03-23-2007, 07:23 AM.

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  • gonzo1510
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    I know we are getting way off topic here but it seems that many of you have worked for TWC, why leave ? Was it that bad?

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  • sgtnewby
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    Here in Minnesota, when I worked for Wackenhut as a CPO, we wore navy blue pants with a black stripe and white shirts, no hats.

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  • Black Caesar
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    When I worked for Wackenhut as a CPO, they told us the Uniform was patterned after the Florida Highway Patrol uniform, then modifyed. I remember thinking "oh, how original" lol.

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  • gonzo1510
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    With the whole Wackenhut thing. They originally actually got in trouble by the CHP because of their uniforms. However they worked it out and because they now have added the purple stripe on their pants, they are no longer in violation of the code.

    I wasn't aware of that, to be honest with you, I see those guys almost daily and I have to say that it is difficult to tell wether or not that stripe is blue or purple...(blurple maybe?) So what would a reasonable lay person believe if they were to see this uniform?

    At first I really did think those guys were CHP but then I noticed the trooper hat. CHP uses the Campaign hat..

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  • Lawson
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    With the whole Wackenhut thing. They originally actually got in trouble by the CHP because of their uniforms. However they worked it out and because they now have added the purple stripe on their pants, they are no longer in violation of the code.

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  • gonzo1510
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    Looks like I really do learn something new everyday... Thanks.

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  • tlangsr
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I beg to differ..... According to the BSIS and California state law, The only uniform regulated is the uniform of the California Highway Patrol. No other Law Enforcement Agency let alone security company is allowed to have it. BSIS only regulates the badge and patch designs when applying for a PPO(They cannot say POLICE/SHERIFF on it).

    I believe that Wackenhut is in violation of the law....

    California Vehicle Code section : 2261.

    A uniform substantially similar to the official uniform of
    members of the California Highway Patrol shall not be worn by any
    other law enforcement officer or by any other person except duly
    appointed members of the California Highway Patrol and persons
    authorized by the commissioner to wear such uniform in connection
    with a program of entertainment. A uniform shall be deemed
    substantially similar to the uniform of the California Highway Patrol
    if it so resembles such official uniform as to cause an ordinary
    reasonable person to believe that the person wearing the uniform is a
    member of the California Highway Patrol.


    Now, if the local police chief or county sheriff of your area are restricting the type of uniform you are allowed to wear, that is different. As far as the state goes,so long as it does not look like a chippie, your'e good to go.
    I stand corrected, I got on the bsis web sit e and found nothing but this as far as regulating uniforms.

    Business and Professions Code Section 7583.38
    A city, county, or city and county may regulate the uniforms and insignias worn by uniformed employees of a private patrol operator and vehicles used by a private patrol operator to make the uniforms and vehicles clearly distinguishable from the uniforms worn by, and the vehicles used by, local regular law enforcement officers

    Thank you sir

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  • gonzo1510
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    No Prob...

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  • tlangsr
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    Originally posted by gonzo1510
    I beg to differ..... According to the BSIS and California state law, The only uniform regulated is the uniform of the California Highway Patrol. No other Law Enforcement Agency let alone security company is allowed to have it. BSIS only regulates the badge and patch designs when applying for a PPO(They cannot say POLICE/SHERIFF on it).

    I believe that Wackenhut is in violation of the law....

    California Vehicle Code section : 2261.

    A uniform substantially similar to the official uniform of
    members of the California Highway Patrol shall not be worn by any
    other law enforcement officer or by any other person except duly
    appointed members of the California Highway Patrol and persons
    authorized by the commissioner to wear such uniform in connection
    with a program of entertainment. A uniform shall be deemed
    substantially similar to the uniform of the California Highway Patrol
    if it so resembles such official uniform as to cause an ordinary
    reasonable person to believe that the person wearing the uniform is a
    member of the California Highway Patrol.


    Now, if the local police chief or county sheriff of your area are restricting the type of uniform you are allowed to wear, that is different. As far as the state goes,so long as it does not look like a chippie, your'e good to go.
    I'm gonna have to check on that. Thank you.

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