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    It was slow the whole night. We started out with about 9 guards, but since it was so slow we cut our staff down to 6 by the end of the night...

    That's when S*** really hit the fan. Two groups of Asian males with about 7 each went at it just as we were pushing everyone out. Luckily it happened out on the sidewalk. First it was just two guys... one knocks the other unconscious, but then all the friends jump in...

    And before you knew it we had a huge brawl in the middle of a 3 lane street, with 2 "satellite fights" on sidewalk!

    Well with only 6 of us we went into the street to help the unconscious man (he's getting kicked by now), but its just chaos. Luckily the bouncers from next door (same company) all came to help us (+5)... Asian guys were getting tossed and cho...i mean head locked... EVERYWERE!

    PD finally showed up 10 mins later (they were short-staffed on Sun.)

    In the end I cuffed two males (one released afterwards, one taken to detox), none of us got hit. We kept a tight perimeter and mainly only looked out for each other.

    It was crazy. I think we handled it very well given the situation. Does anybody have any advise on mass/gang fights (keep in mind we have no weapons of any kind)
    Police Officer

    Experience: Bouncer, EMT, Theme Park Security, Money Transport, Armed Guard

  • #2
    Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
    It was slow the whole night. We started out with about 9 guards, but since it was so slow we cut our staff down to 6 by the end of the night...

    That's when S*** really hit the fan. Two groups of Asian males with about 7 each went at it just as we were pushing everyone out. Luckily it happened out on the sidewalk. First it was just two guys... one knocks the other unconscious, but then all the friends jump in...

    And before you knew it we had a huge brawl in the middle of a 3 lane street, with 2 "satellite fights" on sidewalk!

    Well with only 6 of us we went into the street to help the unconscious man (he's getting kicked by now), but its just chaos. Luckily the bouncers from next door (same company) all came to help us (+5)... Asian guys were getting tossed and cho...i mean head locked... EVERYWERE!

    PD finally showed up 10 mins later (they were short-staffed on Sun.)

    In the end I cuffed two males (one released afterwards, one taken to detox), none of us got hit. We kept a tight perimeter and mainly only looked out for each other.

    It was crazy. I think we handled it very well given the situation. Does anybody have any advise on mass/gang fights (keep in mind we have no weapons of any kind)
    Sounds like it was handled pretty well. Sometimes a situation is just "mano a mano", and nothing but throwing enough bodies at the situation will do any good.

    The only question I would have is whether there weren't some kinds of warning signs of antagonism between the groups before all this started. If there were, you might have had some options:

    1. Separating the groups by each exiting through different doors, or allowing one group to leave while delaying the other group until the first group had cleared the area.

    2. Prepositioning your people to give a "show of force" before the fight started.

    3. Alerting your fellow bouncers next door in advance.

    4. Calling for police support sooner.

    These are just suggestions of course, not having been there.
    Last edited by SecTrainer; 05-29-2007, 03:12 AM.
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    • #3
      Sometimes things just happen... sounds like you guys did the best you could do under the circumstances and thankfully none of you were injured.

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      • #4
        As long as it was outside then you guys should have let them go at it until they all had enough and crawled home. Sounds like a good ole Irish Downy Brook to me.
        THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A 911 CALL IS FOUR MINUTES
        THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR A .357 MAGNUM ROUND IS 1400 FEET PER SECOND?
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        • #5
          Good job! Would it be too late to suggest investing in a MK9 Fogger? LOL!

          We have a few heated issues during the summer months in the parking lot, and I hate seeing my staff chance getting injured over "toughest man" competitions! LOL!
          Deputy Sheriff

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dannyr619 View Post
            It was slow the whole night. We started out with about 9 guards, but since it was so slow we cut our staff down to 6 by the end of the night...
            This is a classic example of "don't count your chickens before they hatch." We have a rule at my Center that is strictly enforced, at shift change nobody is allowed to say "it's been pretty quiet," "the phone hasn't rung all day," or anything else along those lines. As soon as you do, all bets are off and something's bound to happen
            The law is reason free from passion." -- Aristotle

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            • #7
              It's just me and a 75 year old retiree who takes a whole minute just getting out of his chair. We are unarmed and strictly observe and report. A fight breaks out we call 911 and have the deputies come out and break it up. Company policy straight out of the handbook, no hands on action. We make about 3 patrols during the 12 hour shift. The rest of the time I sit and watch DVDs on my laptop and the old guy naps in the corner.
              Hospital Security Officer

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