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Private Security and Terrorism
~Black Caesar~
Corbier's Commandos
" "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret ThatcherTags: None
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As of now, almost six years after 9/11, my company, for instance, has never received one direct communication from any of these agencies about "partnering" in any way. Yes, we receive the national security assessment reports and occasional special notices sent out by DHS and the DOJ, but there has been no national effort to engage the private security industry in any meaningful way in homeland security.
The security industry is not alone in this void. The same agencies talk up a storm about "critical infrastructure" and how important it is to protect these sectors, but in reality they tell the companies occupying these sectors (financial institutions, hospitals, telecom companies, utility companies, transportation companies, etc.) that they're on their own when it comes to implementing higher levels of security. Basically, this amounts to an "unfunded mandate".
Of course, the national scandal with respect to the underqualification, under-training, under-equipping, under-supervising, under-compensating of security officers has nothing to do with homeland security...it's a scandal all on its own, and it was a scandal long before 9/11 brought domestic and transnational terrorism into focus."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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Originally posted by SecTrainer View PostThe same agencies talk up a storm about "critical infrastructure" and how important it is to protect these sectors, but in reality they tell the companies occupying these sectors (financial institutions, hospitals, telecom companies, utility companies, transportation companies, etc.) that they're on their own when it comes to implementing higher levels of security. Basically, this amounts to an "unfunded mandate".duh... This is what we have to work with.....
Apparently a HUGE cop wannabe...
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Originally posted by sgtnewby View PostI actually called the guy that authored the "Explosive Detection K-9 Program" grant for DHS because the grant explaination kept talking about "critical infristructure" and "mass transit." I told him that I had been (at the time) researching hospital security k-9 units for about a year and a half and asked if hospitals qualify for the grant funding. He said "no, not to my knowlege." I then asked if hospitals were even considerred "critical infristructure" and his response was, "I guess we never thought of it that way."duh... This is what we have to work with.....
"Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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Originally posted by SecTrainer View PostNow, that's discouraging.
You're telling me. Try pitching an idea to hospital brass that a program that has never been done in the states history is a good idea, that it can cost up to $90,000.00 (dogs, training, squads, equipment included), and no grant money is available because the government "never thought of it (hospitals as critical infrastructure) that way." I again dare to say, duh...Apparently a HUGE cop wannabe...
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Originally posted by sgtnewby View PostYou're telling me. Try pitching an idea to hospital brass that a program that has never been done in the states history is a good idea, that it can cost up to $90,000.00 (dogs, training, squads, equipment included), and no grant money is available because the government "never thought of it (hospitals as critical infrastructure) that way." I again dare to say, duh..."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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My mall got a DHS grant. Sensormatic installed 3 cameras (2 PTZ on the exterior and 1 black & white stationary in a corridor). It also got us "barriers" at all 5 entrances. The barriers are planters. Though they look decorative, I think they make the entrances look busy and the kids keep picking out the flowers. Sad thing is, I can move these things by myself with little effort. The idea is to keep a vehicle from striking the mall. If any car was out of control and aiming at the building at high speed, the rims would get damaged from the curb, the front end would get damaged by the planters but would still strike and enter the mall. My tax dollars at work."I am not a hero. I am a silent guardian, a watchful protector"
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Reference the Reported Article.
An excellent report and I look forward to reading Forum Member's comments in relation to its contents.
In my opinion the Private Security Industry is not yet ready to take on the Protective Security responsibilities for Government Infastructures as described in the Article, 'Private Security Weak Link Against Terrorism'
And for as long Government Contract Agencies continue to accept the 'lowest tender' and Security Companies continue to employ itinerant workers to be hired and fired according to the season they never will.Last edited by IrishCop; 05-29-2007, 12:50 PM.
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Franklin Bullock, 51, a guard at the busy bus and rail commuter station in Kent, Washington, near Seattle, said he's had no drills with police and fire responders despite terrorist bombings of trains and buses overseas.
A supervisor once tested Bullock by walking him down the platform to see whether he would spot a package he could hardly miss. It had "BOM" written on it. That was the end of his useful hands-on training, Bullock said.
"Everybody's so afraid he's going to make a mistake," said the $25,000-a-year guard, who spent most of his working life as a security guard or correctional officer. "There's no security at all."
But, I disagree with the pay listed. That contract is paying about $27,500 to start, $29,100 midpoint and $31,200 top out.
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Let's be truthful in that there are too many clients and employer's who merely want security to be nothing more than window dressing to lower insurance rates and be the fall guy to take the blame when s**t hits the fan. As a result, the "warm body" syndrome is alive and well and proper training, screening and oversight takes the far back seat because these things cost money.
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Show me the money!
Originally posted by Christopherstjo View PostAs a result, the "warm body" syndrome is alive and well and proper training, screening and oversight takes the far back seat because these things cost money."You don't hurt 'em if you don't hit 'em."
(Lieutenant General Lewis B. Puller, USMC, Marine, 1962.)
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Originally posted by DarkMetalWolf View PostI, as an owner, have put training and safty as my first priority for my officers. If we as owners took a stand this way, we could change this " warm body syndrome ". I am willing to make a little less money so all of my people will go home tonight and when the $hit hits the fan, they will through training, react to the situation correctly and hopefully with grace and not panic.
What I think really needs to happen is that security agency owners need to start bidding jobs at rates that cover all of the following:
1. Good wages for officers with a sliding payscale for seniority, education and training.
2. Decent benefits.
3. Proper equipment. Up-to-date technology.
4. Appropriate training in all areas of the security function, including medical responder or advanced first aid, emergency response, terrorism awareness and hazmat awareness.
5. Adequate supervision.
6. A decent profit for the company.
What's happening now is that companies believe they can only get business if they underbid everyone else. Where can that possibly lead to except a mad race to the bottom? And, where can they cut costs except on the back of the security officer? This is no way to run a railroad, and it would be to the BENEFIT of company owners if they realized that this model of doing business is not healthy and it's not good for the industry."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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Originally posted by sgtnewby View PostI actually called the guy that authored the "Explosive Detection K-9 Program" grant for DHS because the grant explaination kept talking about "critical infristructure" and "mass transit." I told him that I had been (at the time) researching hospital security k-9 units for about a year and a half and asked if hospitals qualify for the grant funding. He said "no, not to my knowlege." I then asked if hospitals were even considerred "critical infristructure" and his response was, "I guess we never thought of it that way."duh... This is what we have to work with.....
K9...."Protect all who enter"
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