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  • #16
    Actually we will be completing what is called phase 1 of the police academy. Its the first 13 weeks. Full Police Officers have to go through 26 weeks. We will be peace officers. Instead of the normal 40 hours of firearm training for peace officers we will be given the 80 hours required of police recruits.

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    • #17
      Ah, I see.

      I've got a couple of questions.

      #1. Do all Colleges/Universities (who have campus police) do the same thing (ie have Peace officers), or do some have peace officers and some have police?

      And

      #2. Related to #1, is there some kind of restriction for some colleges/universities? What I mean is, can the institution choose between peace officers and police, or is it just peace officers only for colleges/universities.

      I'm always curious about how other states do it (not just campus police, but policing in general). I admit how other states do things tend to confuse me.

      In Texas we tend to keep it real simple, but I've seen some complecated things in other places, like where in some places campus police have to be "subordinate" to the city police (the only time that happens here is with Transit police being subordinate to the "jurisdictional" police in their area), or how campus police have to be auxillary city police (in other words, they are not police in their own right) ect ect.

      I don't think Oregon (among other states) even has campus police, I visited the Oregon State Universite website a few days ago and their security is handled "jointly" by the OSU Department of Public Safety (headed by a director) and a Detachment of the Oregon State Police (led by a Lieutenant).
      Man, I just couldn't imagine that, 2 seperate organizations on the same campus, that just wouldn't work here, which is why some Texas School districts are ending their contracts with local PDs (the PDs provide School Resource officers) and creating their own School Police.
      ~~~

      Anyways, I think you'll like the change from contract to "in-house", I know I did.
      Last edited by Black Caesar; 05-31-2007, 07:09 AM.
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      • #18
        The Peace Officer designation means that you can enforce one or more laws of the State of New York. When I asked several NY police officers about "what is a peace officer, and is it a law enforcement officer," I learned that it is not considered a police officer. One noted that the building inspector in some towns are given peace officer powers so that they can write ordinance violations.

        We had a problem with someone long ago, who eventually moved to South Carolina and became a police officer, claiming to be a private college peace officer on this forum.

        Since a private college cannot have sworn law enforcement officers, as they're not a political sub-division of the state, they can request the state legislature pass a law to authorize them to have peace officers.

        When I contacted the "someone's" employer to find more information, I was told that they were confident that the legislature would authorize peace officer status.

        Its kinda like... Know how some states have park rangers who aren't police officers, but can still write you a conversation law ticket? They are usually "peace officers," or "Conservators of the Peace," who are charged with enforcing one or more laws of the state. Even if they are authorized to enforce just one law, they get peace officer status and can carry guns (in some states) and make arrests (for that one law.)

        Here in Wisconsin, there are DNR Wardens who are not considered LEOs, but are Peace Officers because they can enforce the traffic code and DNR rules on DNR land. (Department of Natural Resources is DNR, btw...)

        They can carry a concealed weapon because the statute says any peace officer may, but they can't go around arresting people off DNR land for murder on their state tin.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by N. A. Corbier View Post

          Here in Wisconsin, there are DNR Wardens who are not considered LEOs, but are Peace Officers because they can enforce the traffic code and DNR rules on DNR land. (Department of Natural Resources is DNR, btw...)

          They can carry a concealed weapon because the statute says any peace officer may, but they can't go around arresting people off DNR land for murder on their state tin.
          Here in Minnesota, the DNR (Department of Natural Resorces) cops are lisenced police and have full powers.

          Here's the job description and qualifications.

          http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/jobs/careerinfo/co.html
          Apparently a HUGE cop wannabe...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sgtnewby View Post
            Here in Minnesota, the DNR (Department of Natural Resorces) cops are lisenced police and have full powers.

            Here's the job description and qualifications.

            http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/jobs/careerinfo/co.html



            Having worked in a hospital, every time I see the letter "DNR together, I think about the "Do Not Resucitate" orders some patients had (meaning don't put them on life support or interfer with their dying in any way).

            So when I saw "DNR Cops", I took me by suprise for a moment. I'm like "wow, those cops really don't want you coming back to life now do they"...

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            • #21
              As far as I know in New York State a Police Officer is a type of peace officer but a peace office is not necessaraly a Police Officer. Private Colleges are allowed to have Peace Officers with extended powers. 4 year state (SUNY) schools have full Police Officers (State University of New York Campus Police) and since 2004, two year community colleges like the one I work at can also have peace officers. Prior to that year they could only have guards.
              So at the Academy my fellow recruits include people hired by Police Departments and what are called pre-hires. These are people who have paid to take the first phase of training (not including firearms) in hopes of getting hired by a Police Department in the future. Then of course there are us campus peace officers.

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