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    I just wanted to share the good news. At the college where I work for Securitas, we have lost the contract. Thats good for me because the college has decided to go with armed peace officers for security. I was one of the few current officers who qualified and applied. I start the academy this coming tuesday at full pay and benefits. My family and I are very exited. Does anyone have any advice for someone entering the acedemy?

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    CONGRATULATIONS!

    Don't know about yours, but some academies closely resemble basic training in the military, if you've been through that. Others aren't that tight, but spit and polish never hurt. Following strict safety procedures and orders on the firing range is an absolute must, as anything less can get you kicked out.

    Elements of criminal law, constitutional rights, crime scene procedure, building search, felony stops, shooter-in-progress, powers of arrest, arrest/citation procedures, report writing and the force continuum are always biggies.

    Mainly, stay focused and I'm sure you'll do fine.

    Best wishes!
    Last edited by SecTrainer; 05-26-2007, 12:29 AM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
      CONGRATULATIONS!

      Don't know about yours, but some academies closely resemble basic training in the military, if you've been through that. Others aren't that tight, but spit and polish never hurt. Following strict safety procedures and orders on the firing range is an absolute must, as anything less can get you kicked out.

      Elements of criminal law, constitutional rights, crime scene procedure, building search, felony stops, shooter-in-progress, powers of arrest, arrest/citation procedures, report writing and the force continuum are always biggies.

      Mainly, stay focused and I'm sure you'll do fine.

      Best wishes!
      Keep your mouth shut, and keep your eyes and ears open.

      Try your best, and don't give up. If you see someone else falling behind, specially in the PT phase...help get them motivated. Keep in mind team work is key.

      Congratulations, and good luck!

      Start working out...
      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      • #4
        That is awesome!! Congratulations. I know you're excited, and well deservedly.
        Anything that hits the fan,
        Will not be evenly distributed.

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        • #5
          Congrats.
          "Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists. " Author Unknown

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          • #6
            Keys, soak up as much of the training as you can, study, study. Take extensive notes. Know the subject matter cold. If you make a favorable impression on your instructors and classmates, expect to move up and thrive.
            Enjoy the day,
            Bill

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Lord of the Keys View Post
              I just wanted to share the good news. At the college where I work for Securitas, we have lost the contract. Thats good for me because the college has decided to go with armed peace officers for security. I was one of the few current officers who qualified and applied. I start the academy this coming tuesday at full pay and benefits. My family and I are very exited. Does anyone have any advice for someone entering the acedemy?
              Good goin Keys, I love it when someone's hard work and loyalty pays off.

              About the academy, the thing that stuck with me the most is "no question is a stupid one". Ask ask ask. The Police Academy (going through it and getting out of it alive lol) was one of the best experiences of my life, right behind my wedding and the births of my children.

              Also, maintain the balance.

              By that I mean 2 things:

              #1. Be proud of the fact that you've made it in the gate, but don't let that turn to arrogance like soooo many recruits do. Thinking you are the God of Police and Lord of Man is the quickest path to failure and defeat you can imagine IMO.

              And #2. Be concerned about your progress, but don't let that concern turn to fear that will cause you to second guess yourself on crucial end of subject Test or practical exam. If you study and you know the material, thats all you need to do. And don't let the State Test at the end of the academy scare you either, just push on through.

              Good luck man.
              ~Black Caesar~
              Corbier's Commandos

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              • #8
                Bravo. You'll do fine.
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                • #9
                  My tip: Pay attention and take everything seriously. The academy I'm finishing up is great, and taught by well qualified instructors, but some of the students don't take things all that serious. Their take on it is "I can just do the minimum right now, because I'll learn it all on the "street" anyways." or they find the role playing funny, so when we do traffic stops (practice) they can't keep a straight face because their classmate is the one giving them a hard time.
                  I take everything to heart and try to pretend in my mind that these were/are real situations. When we get the Redman (TM) gear on or practice defense tactics, I don't hold any punches or "go easy" on the guy because I know him and I expect others to do the same with me. This way I know I can stay calm under stress, regardless if its "funny" stress or hostile stress, I know I can take a punch or 5 (or a knee to the face, yeah took one of those in training), and I know that when I need to defend myself, my body won't have to decide if I'm going to "take it a little easier" on the BG.
                  I also concur about paying attention to the academics, because when you start working you won't have to worry about learning or relearning them, that way you'll have more time to hone and build on the skills you already have.

                  Good job on getting hired!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ff000525 View Post
                    My tip: Pay attention and take everything seriously. The academy I'm finishing up is great, and taught by well qualified instructors, but some of the students don't take things all that serious. Their take on it is "I can just do the minimum right now, because I'll learn it all on the "street" anyways." or they find the role playing funny, so when we do traffic stops (practice) they can't keep a straight face because their classmate is the one giving them a hard time.
                    I take everything to heart and try to pretend in my mind that these were/are real situations. When we get the Redman (TM) gear on or practice defense tactics, I don't hold any punches or "go easy" on the guy because I know him and I expect others to do the same with me. This way I know I can stay calm under stress, regardless if its "funny" stress or hostile stress, I know I can take a punch or 5 (or a knee to the face, yeah took one of those in training), and I know that when I need to defend myself, my body won't have to decide if I'm going to "take it a little easier" on the BG.
                    I also concur about paying attention to the academics, because when you start working you won't have to worry about learning or relearning them, that way you'll have more time to hone and build on the skills you already have.

                    Good job on getting hired!
                    You know, I can sympathize with some of those guys. Right now I'm in an Advanced First Aid class at college and the first couple times I had to role play as a first responder or victim, I couldn't keep a straight face because I am pretty good friends with the hot chick I had to examine. I told her that if I was her first responder, she was going to have a few more bruises by the time we got to the hospital. After that though I was able to start role playing without laughing, because honestly, this training might save someones life.
                    Anything that hits the fan,
                    Will not be evenly distributed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Black Caesar View Post
                      About the academy, the thing that stuck with me the most is "no question is a stupid one". Ask ask ask.
                      This point is probably the most important of all the responses you've had to your question. I'd say if you follow this single piece of advice and don't remember anything else we've suggested, you'll still succeed.

                      Ask questions until you get it, otherwise the trainer can only assume you understand the point and move on. Chances are, if you're not getting it someone else isn't getting it either, but even if the whole class thinks you're dumb for asking questions, your trainer won't think so, I assure you. If anything, he'll think you're probably the one who's paying attention.
                      Last edited by SecTrainer; 05-27-2007, 11:21 PM.
                      "Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques

                      "I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous

                      "There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

                      "History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SecTrainer View Post
                        This point is probably the most important of all the responses you've had to your question. I'd say if you follow this single piece of advice and don't remember anything else we've suggested, you'll still succeed.

                        Ask questions until you get it, otherwise the trainer can only assume you understand the point and move on. Chances are, if you're not getting it someone else isn't getting it either, but even if the whole class thinks you're dumb for asking questions, your trainer won't think so, I assure you. If anything, he'll think you're probably the one who's paying attention.
                        Dynamic answer. The point to always while in training, role playing and exercises in general comes from military training, "Sweat more now, bleed less later." Ask yourself this question, "Would I rather be partnered with someone who just did enough to get by or someone who applied themselves 110% of the time all the time?" If they think all training is a waste of time or they know all this stuff already, would you want this person as your backup or depend upon them to save your life? I think not.
                        If you failed to prepare for the class, then it is your fault and questioning something you should know is inexcusable. If however you have gone over the material and still don't under the concept, keep asking until you get it down pat.
                        Enjoy the day,
                        Bill

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                        • #13
                          Congrats and good luck! Hopefully in the next year or two I will have a similar post. We have a lobbyist working on legislation right now to convert our security department into a licensed police department. Aside from the VA, we'd be the first hospital police in MN. So I may one day be in your shoes. Just focus young grasshopper, and you'll do fine.
                          And to quote Black Caesar, no question is a dumb question. As an FTO, if you don't know something, there is only one way you'll ever figure it out, "ask ask ask." The people that don't ask questions are the one's that worry me, they start to seem like "know-it-alls."
                          Last edited by sgtnewby; 05-28-2007, 02:28 PM.
                          Apparently a HUGE cop wannabe...

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                          • #14
                            We have it good here. The Academy is at the college I'll be working at which is also the college I've been guarding with Securitas. Four of my fellow recruits are my co-workers from securitas and a total of 8 recruits will be working at he college with me when we graduate.
                            We are getting 13 weeks at full pay includeing full police officer weapons training instead of the lesser number of hours required for peace officers. We will be issued the Glock in .45 ACP.
                            I'm still working one night a week at the site with securitas. It gives me a chance to unwind. I'd like to know who else is or has worked in a similar envirnonment.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Lord of the Keys View Post
                              We are getting 13 weeks at full pay includeing full police officer weapons training instead of the lesser number of hours required for peace officers. We will be issued the Glock in .45 ACP.
                              Good for you. The full police certification can open other doors later on too I'd think.

                              (on a side note)

                              About 3 years ago I met my wife's half brother for the 1st time, he was a Campus peace officer with the City College of New York. During our conversation he mentioned that he was going to test with the Suffolk County Police and thought he had a good shot at it, the only thing he didn't like was (in his words) "If i get on with them, I have to go to the full police academy, I'm just a peace officer right now". (He didn't, him and his wife moved back to Georgia when she got a better job offer, now he works for the Savannah Chatham Police)

                              Being from Texas I was perplexed. He said he was a peace officer already, but he'd have to "go to the full police academy" if he got the other job. We were simply on different pages because our states do things so differently.

                              In NY there is a differance between Peace Officer and Police Officer and the training requirements are different (as far as i know talking to my brother in law and others I've met, correct me if I'm wrong).

                              Texas dosen't have anything like that, here every Law Enforcement Officer is a "Peace Officer" and the different types (Police officer, Marshal, constable, Sheriff, game warden, State trooper, Airport police, Tranist, police, Campus police ect ect ect) are just differant Flavors (so to speak) of Peace Officer. So when someone says to me they are a Peace officer, I believed they'd have gone for the full ride of a police academy. I knew other states do it differently, but I didn't know how differently.

                              To further complicate things, my wife's father (who she just met in person for the 1st time 3 years ago also) was a retired Deputy City Sheriff in Virginia. Before I met him, I didn't know there was such a thing as a City sheriff lol...

                              America can be a confusing place .....


                              I'm still working one night a week at the site with securitas. It gives me a chance to unwind. I'd like to know who else is or has worked in a similar envirnonment.
                              Me of course, I work for a Community College District. I love it, which puts me at odds with a few other Campus cops I work with, but most of those types do their 2 years here and go work for some city PD or County sheriff so i don't have to put up with them for long .

                              It can be frustrating as hell dealing with the various "factions" on campus, from the very liberal ex-flower child professors and admin types, to the little wannabe gang bangers who like to hang out on campus ect ect, But I wouldn't trade it for anything else.

                              There's nothing better than watching people you protected walk across that stage and get that degree.......
                              ~Black Caesar~
                              Corbier's Commandos

                              " "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

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