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    It is my companies policy that our guns do not get holstered until we get to our site, meaning that from home to the site our gun must be unholstered, i have worked at some companies were they didnt care.. what is your companies stance on this ?
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    FL states that you may only be armed in performance of your duties. That means you can't have it on to and from work.

    NOW there is a couple ways around it.

    1) If you have a CCW, when you leave work you can throw a sweatshirt/jacket/big tshirt/whatever over your uniform and gun and you are now carrying on your CCW. This does not include putting a company jacket on because you will still be "in uniform"

    2) The second one is a lil bit stretching it. Your company states that you are not off duty until you pull into your driveway. You are subject to being called back until you go 10-7.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by UtahProtectionForce
      It is my companies policy that our guns do not get holstered until we get to our site, meaning that from home to the site our gun must be unholstered, i have worked at some companies were they didnt care.. what is your companies stance on this ?
      Maryland state says to and from work only. Meaning you can be armed (holstered) as you leave home enroute to work..and from work enroute home. However..must be in uniform.

      My company policy is you're firearm is part of your uniform. Therefore, whiile in uniform carrying the weapon holstered is suggested, however is at the descretion of the officer. Some officers don't feel comfortable wearing a full uniform to and from the workplace. If not in full uniform than the weapon shall be unloaded, and placed in the trunk of the vehicle.
      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      • #4
        My employer does not have strigent policies on such matters... commonsense goes a long way however.

        Although state laws say that you are not suppose to carry your firearm unless you are on duty, and they deem travel to and from work to be "on duty" it is suffice to say, however, that this is not the hard fast rule given that you also have to travel with your firearm to the shooting range when off duty.

        Not too long ago, I was pulled over by a highway patrol pd after visiting my folks in another town from where I live. Turns out driving under the speed limit at 2 a.m. but well within legal limits, draws suspicion to you... go figure (lol) Anyway, he saw my firearm in the back seat, holstered and on my duty belt, and he asked me the expected questions. I provided him my commission card and nothing more was said.
        Last edited by Christopherstjo; 05-14-2007, 02:34 PM.

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        • #5
          Turns out driving under the speed limit at 2 a.m. but well within legal limits, draws suspicion to you... go figure (lol) Anyway
          Driving under the speed limit is usually a indicator of DWI. Most of the people I know, that carry never have been "carded" by police. That is those that are in uniform. Pretty interesting, and scary at the same time.
          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BadBoynMD
            Driving under the speed limit is usually a indicator of DWI. Most of the people I know, that carry never have been "carded" by police. That is those that are in uniform. Pretty interesting, and scary at the same time.
            Since I do not drink alcohol, I was unaware of such things..but it makes sense.

            I was not in uniform; had I been, the subject would not have risen... it was because I was not in uniform and had my firearm in the back seat that he naturally asked me why, anyone would, and I explained why and he had no further concerns.

            State law says "Uniformed persons holding an armed license may wear their approved firearm with their uniform while at work and while traveling directly to and from work." When I took my firearm with me, I was careful to leave all bullets at home and the firearm was out of my reach while in my car, as an extra thought to dispel the belief that I was up to no good.

            In another section, it also says that you cannot carry a firearm or other weapon that is "readily capable of leathal use" ... I wonder if that means if you have no bullets and thus, render it incapable of leathal force, that you can carry it into gov't buildings. I don't think I'll try it to find out

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GCMC Security
              FL states that you may only be armed in performance of your duties. That means you can't have it on to and from work.

              NOW there is a couple ways around it.

              1) If you have a CCW, when you leave work you can throw a sweatshirt/jacket/big tshirt/whatever over your uniform and gun and you are now carrying on your CCW. This does not include putting a company jacket on because you will still be "in uniform"

              2) The second one is a lil bit stretching it. Your company states that you are not off duty until you pull into your driveway. You are subject to being called back until you go 10-7.
              Gee those sound familiar.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Christopherstjo
                When I took my firearm with me, I was careful to leave all bullets at home and the firearm was out of my reach while in my car, as an extra thought to dispel the belief that I was up to no good.
                My question is, why did you bring an unloaded pistol, holstered in your duty belt, to go visit people out of town?

                That doesn't make any sense at all. Either leave it at home or carry on your CCW.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LPGuy
                  My question is, why did you bring an unloaded pistol, holstered in your duty belt, to go visit people out of town?

                  That doesn't make any sense at all. Either leave it at home or carry on your CCW.
                  There are many reasons, perhaps I was going to go target practice to keep my skills up... who says I have to go to a specific shooting range only in the town I live; perhaps I was going to have the firearm repaired by a licensed tech; perhaps I was going to replace it by selling it and buying a new one; perhaps I was afraid it would be stolen while I was gone; perhaps a lot of reasons exists ... point being is ... what does it matter, if the highway patrol pd believed I was doing something wrong, he would have made it clear and he said nothing of the sort.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christopherstjo
                    There are many reasons, perhaps I was going to go target practice to keep my skills up... who says I have to go to a specific shooting range only in the town I live; perhaps I was going to have the firearm repaired by a licensed tech; perhaps I was going to replace it by selling it and buying a new one; perhaps I was afraid it would be stolen while I was gone; perhaps a lot of reasons exists ... point being is ... what does it matter, if the highway patrol pd believed I was doing something wrong, he would have made it clear and he said nothing of the sort.
                    I never indicated that I felt you were up to no good.

                    None of the reasons you stated require bringing your duty belt with you in addition to the firearm. And why would you drive with a duty belt and firearm in plane view on the rear seat when not in uniform? Were you going to bring them in with you everywhere you stopped?

                    My point is, the way you transported the firearm seems to be asking for attention.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LPGuy
                      I never indicated that I felt you were up to no good.

                      None of the reasons you stated require bringing your duty belt with you in addition to the firearm. And why would you drive with a duty belt and firearm in plane view on the rear seat when not in uniform? Were you going to bring them in with you everywhere you stopped?

                      My point is, the way you transported the firearm seems to be asking for attention.
                      I did what I did for the reason I believed justified and necessitated doing so.

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                      • #12
                        My Current employer generally keeps our weapons on site, We sign them out when we come on duty, sign them back in when we are off duty.

                        In my case, since I work two sites, when I leave work I take the gun with me. This particular gun is assigned as mine. I get in my car wearing it, and I get out at my second job site wearing it. When I leave that job site and am done for the day, the entire belt and gear go in the trunk When I get home, the gun is
                        unloaded, the gun locked, and placed in the case.

                        I only use the company gun while on duty, but I could carry it from home to work wearing it.

                        My previous armed position I carried open from home to work, but I have a CCW.

                        Open carry is technically legal here, but if you walk down the street with a gun on your hip, not going to or from work in uniform, the police are going to collect you for disturbing the peace.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Christopherstjo
                          I provided him my commission card and nothing more was said.
                          What commission card?

                          Is that what we call a security license here?

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                          • #14
                            California Law says licensed armed guards may carry a firearm to and from work while in uniform.

                            Aside from that, the firearm and the ammo must be seperated.

                            I did get haggled by CHP once. I was carrying on my way to work. I had my duty belt in the backseat and my firearm in a pancake holster since I knew I was going to be indoors that day. The officer wanted to charge me with carrying a concealed weapon. I politely advised the officer that we were allowed to carry to and from... well, she then asked me what academy I graduated from since I knew the proper state penal codes. She eventually let me go with a fix it ticket and the meanest stinkeye I've ever seen
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wilrobnson
                              What commission card?

                              Is that what we call a security license here?
                              Some call it a commission card and some call it a license...
                              Last edited by Christopherstjo; 05-15-2007, 02:24 AM.

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