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  • gonzo1510
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    I'm Processing with the Los Angeles County Office of Public Safety A.K.A The L.A. County Police. I have a few more steps to complete and then I will be sent to the Police Academy.

    I also have my PPO.

    While my dream was always to go into law enforcement, I got into security/ Armored Transportation and really enjoy the work. I found an agency that will allow me to do both.

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by iwicgsr View Post
    Yet another thread that lost its home, Now looking for any final resting place.
    I used to call these threads off-topic. Now, I embrace their "dynamic format."

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  • iwicgsr
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    Lost Again

    Yet another thread that lost its home, Now looking for any final resting place.

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  • SecTrainer
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    I don't think our Explorers need to be told to not chase people who just opened fire on a building. You are talking about an incident that is so off the wall it hardly applies.
    You can dream up just about any goofy scenario and probably find at least one time that it happened. This is true, for instance, in risk analysis. These situations are called "outliers" and you never draw general conclusions about programs, make broad statements about conditions, create policies, set up systems, etc. based on outliers. That doesn't mean you don't think about them - you just don't set them up as "the rule" when they are "the exception".

    Of course, you have to clearly identify outliers; not all "one-off" events are outliers. Had the attack on 9/11 been an outlier, there would not have been much to have been said or done about it after the fact. However, the events of 9/11 were part of a larger pattern that had been materializing for some years in terms of Al Qaida attacks on US assets. 9/11 was a different manifestation of a single phenomenon...not an outlier. The incident referenced by dannyr916 is an outlier.

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  • Lawson
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    Originally posted by dannyr619
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

    Police are investigating why a former marine opened fire on a pizzeria Wednesday night, fatally shooting a bartender, and then killing two unarmed auxiliary police officers who chased him through a busy stretch of bars and restaurants in the heart of Greenwich Village....
    I don't think our Explorers need to be told to not chase people who just opened fire on a building. You are talking about an incident that is so off the wall it hardly applies.

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  • Arff312
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    I am former LE Explorer here even made it to captain. I fully believe it helped me greatly. I know how to position for contacts , Clear buildings, search and arrest , write reports, etc... thansk to explorers. My previous companies expected officers to do that with no training and that scared me. I have seen some messed up techniques, clearing buildings with OC or Baton (officers are armed ) etc... Makes me laugh. My current company trains the officers in that and more.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Security-to-LE-to-security here.

    Dunno what I'll do next...Sheep ranching, computer programming...?

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  • Ms. Enforcer
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    I've been in the security business for almost 12 years, and now I'm looking to get into LE. I'm pretty bored with what I"m doing now, so I think I need more of a challenge and LE is the way to go as far as my own personal development.

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  • davis002
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    Originally posted by dannyr619
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

    Police are investigating why a former marine opened fire on a pizzeria Wednesday night, fatally shooting a bartender, and then killing two unarmed auxiliary police officers who chased him through a busy stretch of bars and restaurants in the heart of Greenwich Village....
    This is an old story that has been already been discussed, and it also has no relevance to LE exploring. Aux Police and Exploring are total opposites.
    Last edited by davis002; 05-12-2007, 10:30 PM.

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  • BoyInBlue
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    Oh please... Targets? Yeah, I can't count the number of times I was shot, stabbed, beaten up and harassed. And wtf do you mean by wannabes? Yeah, most explorers, want to be cops... um thats why it is "Law Enforcement Exploring" Not "Security Guard Exploring" "Chevron Gas Station Exploring" "Bus Driver Exploring" or anything else. God forbid they give them a car that allows them to Explore the experience of being a Law Enforcement Officer a bit.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

    Police are investigating why a former marine opened fire on a pizzeria Wednesday night, fatally shooting a bartender, and then killing two unarmed auxiliary police officers who chased him through a busy stretch of bars and restaurants in the heart of Greenwich Village....

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  • davis002
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    Originally posted by sgtnewby
    Ya know, I tried to get a pic posted in it's full size but it says it's too big. Is there a trick to this?
    I don't know what you have for photo editing software, but assuming you use windows...
    1. Open "Paint"
    2. Click on "IMAGE"
    3. select "STRECH/SKEW"
    4. Reduce the image from 100x100 to 50x50. This should be enough to reduce the image to the size allowed by SIW.
    5. Then 'File', 'Save As' something seperate than the original.


    My directions aren't the greatest, but it should be enough to walk you through it.

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  • sgtnewby
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    Ya know, I tried to get a pic posted in it's full size but it says it's too big. Is there a trick to this?
    Last edited by sgtnewby; 05-12-2007, 11:20 AM.

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  • sgtnewby
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    Oh please... Targets? Yeah, I can't count the number of times I was shot, stabbed, beaten up and harassed. And wtf do you mean by wannabes? Yeah, most explorers, want to be cops... um thats why it is "Law Enforcement Exploring" Not "Security Guard Exploring" "Chevron Gas Station Exploring" "Bus Driver Exploring" or anything else. God forbid they give them a car that allows them to Explore the experience of being a Law Enforcement Officer a bit.

    Right on Lawson, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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  • davis002
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    Since we are talking about our days as police explorers, I thought it would be funny to post a picture.

    At the time of the photo, I was the post lieutenant and we were helping out a small town that was dealing with spring flooding in central Minnesota. It's amazing, I had alot more hair then!

    Also, I look a little ragged because I had been up for 3 days straight.
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    Last edited by davis002; 05-11-2007, 01:24 PM.

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  • BadBoynMD
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    Originally posted by BHR Lawson
    As do I, as well as a lot of cops I know were Explorers at one point in time. My time as an Explorer has given me a lot of training that I was able to apply to the Security field that no security agency I've ever worked for has ever even thought might be a good idea to teach people.

    A lot of Explorers I know go to become security guards when they turn 18 because it's like "almost getting to do the job." I always tell them two things...

    1. Becoming a Security Guard can be a great step in your career if you use it wisely. It is a real opportunity to get some real world experience in making contacts with citizens, including those who are unruly and will not respect you. Remember your training and try to get a "groove" which you can carry over into your police career in a few years should you decide to go to the public sector.

    2. Remember, you are not yet a police officer. It will be a cool experience getting a police style uniform, getting a belt that actually has some equipment on it, being the one who is in charge, having handcuffs that you can and may be expected to use, maybe even having your own patrol car. It's going to be a lot coming on you real fast, but you are still a security guard, not a police officer, nothing more, nothing less. It will still be YOUR JOB. You are still the one expected to protect that property and the people on it, but it is up to you to use sound judgement over what you can and cannot do while working.

    Most security companies I've worked for have never taught about how to position your vehicle on contacts, how to stand, any form of DT, any type of radio communication courtesy, etc... I picked all that up from my Explorer Post. I can honestly say, if I had never been an Explorer I would not be as good of a Security Guard as I am today.
    Amen! I couldn't agree more. I can't stand warm body security companies.

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