Originally posted by kjtw
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Thanks for the welcome! I actually left CIS in 2004. I am getting ready to head back down there however to do some work with S2. I think that I briefly met Spano when I was down there a couple of weeks ago, but not formally...he was asleep on the couch at the apartment in Orlando LoL. I am sure I will run into him again though...
On another note...
I am not going to get into an argument about how great or how horrible CIS is or about anything related to the topic, but I am going to address some of the comments here...
880 Mandalay was a very different assignment than what most know CIS for. It was an assignment within the Risk Managment (unarmed) Group. I wouldn't even go as far as calling it Observe and Report due to the limited duties and responsibilities that it entailed. The officer assigned to the account was, in fact, a very good officer. To say that he was anything less than a normal quality CIS officer would be just untrue. In addition, he DID know very well what his duties were.
I can't, for the life of me, think of any possible way that CIS could be held liable for this horrible crime. The officer that was working did exactly what he was hired to do. The person that killed Aimee was an invited guest that Aimee approved to enter. He signed in and out as required. There was no vicarious (or other type) liability involved in this situation. There was nothing that he could have done to stop what happened short of being able to tell the future.
Everyone is allowed to believe what they wish. As I stated before, I am not going to get into an argument on how great CIS is or isn't. I am just going to tell you the facts and, if you choose to believe them or not, that is up to you.
The reason that CIS handled Aimee's death the way it did was due to the way that the owners feel about the employees. They look at every employee as a member of the CIS family. On Thanksgiving, turkey dinners are delivered to those that are working as a thank you. In addition, at least when I was there, CIS would do things for officers like family picnics and such. Its all about taking care of the troops. With the case of Aimee, this extended into her death. Paying for funeral expenses, arranging the honor guard and procession and many many CIS officers and staff at the funeral were just an extension of that caring. It had nothing to do with anything other than that.
In my opinion, CIS is a very good company. The owners, executives and command staff care very deeply for the employees. Aimee was not the only employee that was lost and was not the only employee that CIS went to these lengths for, it was just a highly public event.
I will leave it at that...
On another note...
I am not going to get into an argument about how great or how horrible CIS is or about anything related to the topic, but I am going to address some of the comments here...
880 Mandalay was a very different assignment than what most know CIS for. It was an assignment within the Risk Managment (unarmed) Group. I wouldn't even go as far as calling it Observe and Report due to the limited duties and responsibilities that it entailed. The officer assigned to the account was, in fact, a very good officer. To say that he was anything less than a normal quality CIS officer would be just untrue. In addition, he DID know very well what his duties were.
I can't, for the life of me, think of any possible way that CIS could be held liable for this horrible crime. The officer that was working did exactly what he was hired to do. The person that killed Aimee was an invited guest that Aimee approved to enter. He signed in and out as required. There was no vicarious (or other type) liability involved in this situation. There was nothing that he could have done to stop what happened short of being able to tell the future.
Everyone is allowed to believe what they wish. As I stated before, I am not going to get into an argument on how great CIS is or isn't. I am just going to tell you the facts and, if you choose to believe them or not, that is up to you.
The reason that CIS handled Aimee's death the way it did was due to the way that the owners feel about the employees. They look at every employee as a member of the CIS family. On Thanksgiving, turkey dinners are delivered to those that are working as a thank you. In addition, at least when I was there, CIS would do things for officers like family picnics and such. Its all about taking care of the troops. With the case of Aimee, this extended into her death. Paying for funeral expenses, arranging the honor guard and procession and many many CIS officers and staff at the funeral were just an extension of that caring. It had nothing to do with anything other than that.
In my opinion, CIS is a very good company. The owners, executives and command staff care very deeply for the employees. Aimee was not the only employee that was lost and was not the only employee that CIS went to these lengths for, it was just a highly public event.
I will leave it at that...
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