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Good points as usual, SecTrainer.I like the part about young people being likened to a blank slate. Made me think of why the military prefers 18-19 year olds over those in their late twenties when it comes to the infantry. The older a person is when training commences, the greater the possibility that they will not just blindly follow orders when commanded to kill.
In war-torn countries, factions prefer youth soldiers (really just children) because they will commit atrocities w/o hesitation, war crimes so vicious that even hardened adult soldiers would object.
All that talk about no proof reminds me of the decades were cigarette manufacturers claimed: There's No Proof That Cigarettes Cause CancerLast edited by Mr. Security; 04-21-2007, 06:03 PM.Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)
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Originally posted by LPCapCompanies generally allocate a very SMALL percentage of operating budget to Security/Loss Prevention.
So you would use exactly the same technique if you are applying to work for the security department within a non-security company. Yes, the overall percentage of the company's budget spent on security would be small - perhaps only 2% at one company and 3% at another. But, everything else being equal, this does tell you something, namely that Company B spends 50% more of its budget for security percentagewise than company A spends. And, if you're talking about a budget in the $millions, this difference, which appears to be very small when it's expressed as a difference of 1% of the total budget, is actually quite a lot of money.
Naturally, this is only a rough way to make judgements, but as long as I'm comparing apples to apples, if I saw a significant difference in the expenditure percentagewise between two reasonably similar companies, I would be interested in knowing why.
You wouldn't, of course, compare the percentage of the budget spent by Securitas, a contract security company whose business is security, with the percentage spent by General Motors, a nonsecurity company for security when that's not its business. That ain't comparing apples to apples.
As long as you don't compare apples to oranges, the percentage-of-budget or percentage-of-net-income comparison is extremely useful, even if it only leads you to ask the next question: "Why is there this difference, percentagewise, between what Sears budgets for their security people, and what J.C. Penny budgets?" There might be a lot of reasons, of course, but that's what you'd like to know."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityAll that talk about no proof reminds me of the decades where cigarette manufacturers claimed: There's No Proof That Cigarettes Cause Cancer
Uh-huh, right. You know they looked for the "coolest dude" they could lay their mitts on. Now why would that be?Last edited by SecTrainer; 04-21-2007, 05:35 PM."Every betrayal begins with trust." - Brian Jacques
"I can't predict the future, but I know that it'll be very weird." - Anonymous
"There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
"History, with all its volumes vast, hath but one page." - Lord Byron
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Originally posted by N. A. CorbierThe story was that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, a pair of lonely, outcast Goths,
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityVideo games can contribute to violent acts. . .
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Originally posted by Mr. SecurityAn oversimplification of the facts. Guns are different from other weapons because they make it easy to kill many people, especially with clips that hold 15 rounds. The other weapons allow people to overpower the perpetrator so that we don't have 30 bodies in 30 minutes.
What about these other weapons you speak of...
Knives?
Winston Moseley, the nutjob who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death effectively held 38 people at bay with a knife. That's all he had, yet not one person tried to overpower him.
Box cutters?
How many people were killed on 9/11 by psychos armed with box cutters?
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Not to take away from this, I think the "box cutter" thing was myth.
High-capacity magazines are not a threat to society. A person can be killed with one bullet fired from a muzzle loading flintlock rifle. Three people voted against allowing security in Florida to use semi-autos, all saying, "That's a lot more rounds those guards have, they could do more damage."
What does this mean? It means the same rhetoric you hear all the time. "We do not trust the people behind the gun." Yet, guess what? All three senators are guarded by the same licensees that they do not trust to have more than a .38 revolver, and are protected by men and women with Class C (PI) licenses who can carry 9mm semi-auto with any number of rounds for years.
High cap mag bans are rhetoric, and quite frankly, a method of gun removal by attrition. The more high cap mag-accepting guns you ban, the less guns there are. Except, you know, except for those on the street that are already illegal due to being possessed by felons or stolen or altered or being used in a crime.Some Kind of Commando Leader
"Every time I see another crazy Florida post, I'm glad I don't work there." ~ Minneapolis Security on Florida Security Law
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Originally posted by wilrobnsonKnives?
Winston Moseley, the nutjob who stabbed Kitty Genovese to death effectively held 38 people at bay with a knife. That's all he had, yet not one person tried to overpower him.Security: Freedom from fear; danger; safe; a feeling of well-being. (Webster's)
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I watched CBS News this morning and a report was given about a college (do not recall the name) that has implemented a comupter program because of the Tech School shooting that enables them to communicate directly with their students by e-mail and text messaging to give emergency notices such as school shooting incidents and what to do / go.
This is a great idea and all colleges should be doing the same. It is also something that others beyond colleges should also consider, such as large coporations, high schools, and so forth.
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Originally posted by ChristopherstjoI watched CBS News this morning and a report was given about a college (do not recall the name) that has implemented a comupter program because of the Tech School shooting that enables them to communicate directly with their students by e-mail and text messaging to give emergency notices such as school shooting incidents and what to do / go.
This is a great idea and all colleges should be doing the same. It is also something that others beyond colleges should also consider, such as large coporations, high schools, and so forth.
Student 1: "Are those gunshots that I hear down the hall?!"
Student 2" "I don't know, let me check my email!""To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." Sun-Tzu
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Originally posted by davis002I saw a story about this on MSNBC too, but can't find a link. Several software companies market systems that send out emergency messages via multiple delivery systems (phone, email, text, etc.). Phone and Text messages make sense, but email??? I don't think email is the best idea during a time sensitive incident like an active shooter.
Student 1: "Are those gunshots that I hear down the hall?!"
Student 2" "I don't know, let me check my email!") and can access their e-mail from there, as well.
Incidently, I got word this morning that the State of Missouri is going to review and consider my DIVE Team program, in the scope of providing effective and efficient security services in public places, in wake of the Tech School shooting.Last edited by Christopherstjo; 04-23-2007, 11:07 AM.
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Originally posted by davis002I saw a story about this on MSNBC too, but can't find a link. Several software companies market systems that send out emergency messages via multiple delivery systems (phone, email, text, etc.). Phone and Text messages make sense, but email??? I don't think email is the best idea during a time sensitive incident like an active shooter.
Student 1: "Are those gunshots that I hear down the hall?!"
Student 2" "I don't know, let me check my email!"
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