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  • Crimkeeper1
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    I think we have a split personality issue here...

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    boxerguard, he was a good guy...I miss him.

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  • tlangsr
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    Originally posted by N. A. Corbier
    The People's Republic of California is a separate country, yes.
    that explains alot, that's it I'm moving back to the states.

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  • Sarin
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    Originally posted by LPGuy
    There is something to be said for verbal judo skills, to be sure. That said, there is a time and place for it, and there is another time and place for overwhelming, aggressive uses of physical force.

    Unless you're dealing with a hostage situation, I can think of few instances where I'd recommend verbally de-escalating someone (versus using physical force) who is armed with a weapon or who is actively resisting or assaulting you. Remember, the use of physical force is always justified to stop a threat.

    A timid, hands-off approach can often lead to a suspect gaining control of a situation when they feel that you are not willing to. There are interviews with cop killers in which they state that they felt in control of the situation because the officer was not aggressive enough with them, did not control or restrict their movements, etc.

    Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift.
    I definitly agree. But it's all about instinct and your own personal observations of that moment. There have been times when I've not even opened my mouth to try to talk them down, just did it physically, and others where you know if you can just keep them talking long enough to get their family there, or long enough until a nurse can give them sedatives, it'll be a lot easier, and no one will get hurt.

    You can read books all you want about when to attack, how to attack, and what the signs are. But I think the best reference to go off of is instinct, and also your own judgement. Always look for the non violent route, but never, ever hesitate when you know that won't work. I think what many people look for, including cop killers, is that insecurity inside of the S/O or PD officer that stands out when someone doesn't know how to handle a situation.

    And the hands off approach should never be timid. Words can be just as commanding as weapons with many people, if you know how to handle yourself right.

    Hehe, and "Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift" has to be the best line I've read on these forums, and the truest.

    I need to find more of your posts. I really like your viewpoints and what you have to say so far


    And Davis002? LMAO! Don't worry, it wasn't anything worth reading anyways. :P

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  • davis002
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    Originally posted by Rasta
    This message is hidden because Rasta is on your ignore list.
    Isn't that unfortunate? I can't read anything you are posting... This saddens me deeply.

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  • LPGuy
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    Originally posted by Sarin
    Wow...this story sounds like a bunch of rent-a-cops got too big for their britches. No wonder they're always telling us "don't be a cowboy".

    It's amazing how willing some people are to use physical force. In the short time I've worked in security (a little over a year), I've noticed that some guards think everything can be solved by violence, and just get worn out with the job. In the past two days, I've had someone kick me in the throat, and then the next day he tried to stab one of the nurses and myself. But even that situation didn't require any overt force to calm the patient/attacker and diffuse the situation...and I'm a 4'11, 20 year-old female. It's not as if I present that intimidating of a figure!

    Don't get me wrong. I do believe we should always, always be on our toes. The entire time we spoke with said male who attacked (an elderly man, but one of many who has tried to harm staff), I was within reach of the arm holding the "weapon" (a pen), but smiling and talking to him with two other nurses until he finally calmed down. There's something to be said about patience and actually caring about your job AND the wellbeing of others.

    That, and not taking what some people say personally. Such as people in these forums trying to get a rise out of others by stating such random remarks about countries that have nothing to do with the article, and then refusing to back up their belief with evidence.

    If there is one thing that I learned, a smile accompanied by the same type of patience you would give a child can go a very long way in this world.

    "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
    There is something to be said for verbal judo skills, to be sure. That said, there is a time and place for it, and there is another time and place for overwhelming, aggressive uses of physical force.

    Unless you're dealing with a hostage situation, I can think of few instances where I'd recommend verbally de-escalating someone (versus using physical force) who is armed with a weapon or who is actively resisting or assaulting you. Remember, the use of physical force is always justified to stop a threat.

    A timid, hands-off approach can often lead to a suspect gaining control of a situation when they feel that you are not willing to. There are interviews with cop killers in which they state that they felt in control of the situation because the officer was not aggressive enough with them, did not control or restrict their movements, etc.

    Remember, your number one job is to go home at the end of your shift.

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    Originally posted by davis002
    Southern California is a country?
    Yes it is, I am not surprised that you didn't even know that.

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  • Sarin
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    Breathing is a Good Thing in this Profession.

    Wow...this story sounds like a bunch of rent-a-cops got too big for their britches. No wonder they're always telling us "don't be a cowboy".

    It's amazing how willing some people are to use physical force. In the short time I've worked in security (a little over a year), I've noticed that some guards think everything can be solved by violence, and just get worn out with the job. In the past two days, I've had someone kick me in the throat, and then the next day he tried to stab one of the nurses and myself. But even that situation didn't require any overt force to calm the patient/attacker and diffuse the situation...and I'm a 4'11, 20 year-old female. It's not as if I present that intimidating of a figure!

    Don't get me wrong. I do believe we should always, always be on our toes. The entire time we spoke with said male who attacked (an elderly man, but one of many who has tried to harm staff), I was within reach of the arm holding the "weapon" (a pen), but smiling and talking to him with two other nurses until he finally calmed down. There's something to be said about patience and actually caring about your job AND the wellbeing of others.

    That, and not taking what some people say personally. Such as people in these forums trying to get a rise out of others by stating such random remarks about countries that have nothing to do with the article, and then refusing to back up their belief with evidence.

    If there is one thing that I learned, a smile accompanied by the same type of patience you would give a child can go a very long way in this world.

    "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

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  • Bill Warnock
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    It should be remembered when engaging in an argument with a fool insure the fool is not likewise engaged.
    When we say anything in response to a fool or an idiot, they drool with childish relish that we have responded. Right now, I might be doing both, much to my discredit.
    Enjoy the day,
    Bill

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  • N. A. Corbier
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    Originally posted by davis002
    Southern California is a country?
    The People's Republic of California is a separate country, yes.

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  • davis002
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    Originally posted by Rasta
    My country is better than yours, so SIMMER DOWN!!!!
    Southern California is a country?

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by SecTrainer
    Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of !
    My country is better than yours, so SIMMER DOWN!!!!

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  • HotelSecurity
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    Originally posted by SecTrainer
    Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of police killings of civilians in the world, averaging over 140 per year in that tiny nation. Many of these killings are nothing but undisguised or thinly-disguised extrajudicial executions carried out by the police, sometimes in collusion with security forces.

    So, if you're here to learn, fine, but if you think you're going to teach us Lessons from Jamaica, sit back down and don't get me started on that subject!

    Rasta is a troll. Ignore him.

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  • LPGuy
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    A Sheriff’s Office investigation revealed that a patron, later arrested for aggravated battery, entered Champps with a crowbar after he was escorted from the building and punched by Turner.

    I think we just found out where BoxerGuard works.

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  • SecTrainer
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    Originally posted by Rasta
    would never happen in jamaica. cops and security are one against the bad guys.
    Please don't come on this forum and undertake to tell us anything about this subject from Jamaica, which has the highest rate of police killings of civilians in the world, averaging over 140 per year in that tiny nation. Many of these killings are nothing but undisguised or thinly-disguised extrajudicial executions carried out by the police, sometimes in collusion with security forces.

    So, if you're here to learn, fine, but if you think you're going to teach us Lessons from Jamaica, sit back down and don't get me started on that subject!

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